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Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 11:59:30 -0400
From: George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: George Irvine
To: cavers@ge*.co*
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com, sirving@ne*.co*,
     freeatic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*
Subject: Chirs Brown's Lies
Our good buddy Chris Brown, besides causing us a continuous problem
whenever he can, has taken up lying about Parker Turner. He has told
Anthony DeBoer, and I have no idea who he is, but he sure has a lot to
say about us, that somehow, I left Parker dead in the cave, the way
Chris Brown and several of his friends, like Millhollin, have left their
buddies.

   The fact is that Lamar English and I were diving together on our own
dive prior to Gavin and Parker, and it was only when support divers
Carly Anne Johnson and Gregg Knect and Millage Murphy alerted us to a
problem did Lamar and I go back into the water to investigate. 

    Lamar found the tanks on the floor, and I went back and found Gavin.
I did nine more dives looking for Parker, whom I already knew was dead
since Bill Gavin had told me so in a note when I found him. We got Gavin
squared away and guarded him while I did the search in zero vis. 

    Nobody esle had the stomach for that job, and when I see Chrissy
Brown again, he will need police protection. I suggest that whoever on
our team is feeding this guy bad information will need the same
protection . I will also suggest that trash like deboer need to get
their facts straight. I notice in the archives ( I had to go back since
I do not waste my time reading posts from known idiots)  that this guy
deboer is on the wrong side of every single question, just like Chrissy,
and all of them involve the same group of people and same old problems. 

     Let's go back over Chrissy's killing: diving deep on air at Eagle's
Nest with Jim King's bullshit project, and too stupid to deal with his
buddy's problem, and the "project" had no qualified people on hand to
deal with it either, which is obvious or they would not have had CHIRSSY
THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE, NOW WOULD THEY?

     My track record of running the Woodville Karst Plain Project is
perfect, and it is so because I do not allow people like Chris Brown,
nor do I tolerate any bullshit, personal preference, drug and alcholol
abusers ( sorry usdct) , fat slobs, idiots, deep air divers, most
bonesmugglers, or any other nonsense, and while that pisses a lot of
people off, I will pull the plug before that changes, and those in this
project who have come to understand this support me 1000%.

     Every one of our divers who has been killed with the exception of
Parker was doing something stupid and breaking all of the rules or
should not have been diving, and that will not happen with me, and none
of this occurred with me running the project or even within 500 miles of
the site, and my insistence on this is the big bone of contention with
the bullshit cave diving community, and that is just too bad - it is not
ever changing.

      Anthony, you need to keep that mouth shut, and Chrissy, you need
to disappear.
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