Carl,

Does this mean you don't like J. Heimann?

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Subject: Re: Joe
Author:  Carl Heinzl <cgh@kr*.co*> at Unixmail
Date:    3/21/97 23:00


     
Hey - Hymen you twit,
     
>JJ is by all accounts a fine instructor, but here are some facts: he 
>gave Carl Heinzl private lessons for cave, drysuit, and trimix, all in 
>two week period (Carl weenied on the deep air dive, so washed out of
     
What a inane comment from someone whose diving technique was so bad 
that he couldn't find any dive buddies and had to move to California. 
Next time I'm out there I'll be sure to look you up if you haven't 
moved from there by then you maggot.
     
You should get your facts straight asshole before you go make any 
statements that are patently *wrong*.  First - JJ *never* gave me any 
lessons on a drysuit.  You don't believe me, ask him.  Second those 
"two weeks" were split over a 4 month period, but I'm sure you can't 
fathom what details like that mean you little skunk.  Third, the 
culmination of my full cave training was *not* private, there was 
another student with me whom I did not know prior to that trip.
     
I hope I never see you in person again fuckwad.  You're one of those 
assholes that's REAL nice to a person when you're talking to their 
face, hell I thought you were going to break out your kneepads, but 
will make comments like this behind someones back - well FUCK YOU, why 
didn't you start some shit while you were standing in front of me, not 
3000 miles away you little weasel.  I would have taken you and stuffed 
you inside the nose cone of your scooter which, BTW, had MANY more 
scratches on it after you FIRST dive than mine had after my trip.  You 
gotta learn the difference between "hold the trigger down" and - "head 
into the dirt there son".
     
I remember a real nice comment you made about Steve Galperin a while 
back too (I have a LONG memory), I think I'll forward that off to him. 
He'll probably want to pound your little shitface into the dirt too.
     
Just for your fucking information I did the first deep dive (with a 
partial cold) and had a block on the second dive and could not 
descend.  That is not weenieing, it is being smart, not blowing out an 
eardrum.  I supposed you would have been fucking stupid enough to 
simply blow out your ear like you have already blown out your brains. 
Remember, there's NO dive so important that you can't walk away from 
it and your attempting to make me look bad for a reasonable decision 
(the ONLY decision) does nothing but make you look like the imbecile 
that you are.  Not only that, but you were *GUTLESS* enough to hide 
behind an anonymous email address, THEN, come out and criticize others 
for hiding behind fake email/etc.  Yea - pot, kettle, black... it all 
fits.  Well, jerk, *I* do not hide behind anonymous email - I'll call 
it like I see it and right now you look like a worthless piece of 
shit.
     
>trimix the first time).  This is a guy who can make it 600' up the main 
>aline on a set of double 104s - I and others on your team were diving at 
>Ginnie while he was taking lessons and talked to him about it.  I
     
Getting your information a little backward again, eh?  In case you 
don't remember we turned on John Chluski's thirds on my first dive 
after finishing full cave because John had the wrong tanks, simple, 
end of story.  We didn't turn on *my* thirds and when my buddy wants 
to head back that's fine with me, I have nothing "macho" to prove.  Of 
course I don't know ANYONE that wants to dive with you anymore so it 
appears that you have come firmly under rule #1... Trying to strike 
back from the left coast isn't going to get you anywhere.
     
But, the truth of it is that EVERYONE has to start somewhere although 
MOST people (unlike you) actually go somewhere.  Even *if* my diving 
that day was half as bad as you say (which it wasn't) it wouldn't mean 
shit.  No one does fantastic dives on their first few outings but then 
there are the howlers like you who even THOUGH you lived in Florida 
temporarily couldn't make any progress.  You have aboslutely NOTHING 
to show for it asshole.
     
I was just starting out, learning new techniques and skills, applying 
everything I had just finished learning, and trying to have a little 
fun.  So, you want to start talking about weenieing, well let me tell 
you, you picked the WRONG time and place to shoot of your mouth.
     
>believe Heinzl was back in Florida last week, for more private lessons 
>to finish trimix and get guided cave scootering tours (I believe this 
>was who John Todd was referring to when he mentioned "Wide Load").  And
     
No, he was probably referring to your head which I will squeeze like 
the puss head of an infected pimple if I ever see you again...  And 
yes, I was back to see JJ, I sure wouldn't want to be diving with the 
likes of YOU, after all, I'm not "cave rescue" trained, and, I have to 
keep in mind rule #1.
     
>then there's Tennant, who has been back to JJ for more training after 
>the incident which caused great embarrasment to you and WKPP.
     
What, you LIKE to get punished?  What happened to Mike just showed how 
well a team that trains together can react to a situation.  Mike made 
a mistake and *learned* from it.  Too bad you haven't learned from all 
your mistakes - oh wait - you ARE in California, maybe you did after 
all.
     
Listen you worthless piece of crap - you pieced on the WRONG person 
this time.  I will NEVER forget this... I better never see you and I 
don't just mean for 3 months I mean 5-10-20 years - it doesn't make 
any difference to me you'll still be the same stinking gutless SOB 
that you are and I'll nail you to the wall.  Now, go stick your head 
back up your ass like it was when you left and concentrate on your 
worthless life but you BETTER keep looking over your shoulder.
     
-Carl-
     
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