I like an unattached neoprene hood with my DUI shell suit. I use a 6mm hood for cold stuff and a polartech hood for warmer (cave) stuff. So I guess it comes down to a basic principle. Fit and Comfort, what you are most happy with for your diving. Keep it simple, ie seperate hood for ease of replacement or change for conditions. Just another 2 pennies. Randy Z. ~~~~~~NEVER LET THE FACTS GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!~~~~~~ (313) 39-02922 FAX (313) 845-5383 Pager (810) 890-3665 FoMoCo Vehicle Operations Maufacturing Engineer---Powertrain 1999 F-150, F-250, SVE, EXPEDITION and NAVIGATOR trucks. *** Forwarding note from I2361250--IBMMAIL 03/17/97 17:38 *** From: "Moriarity, Robert A." <RAMORIA@un*.co*> To: "'taylor@ru*.ne*'" <taylor@ru*.ne*>, "'BrianE@an*.an*.ui*.ed*'" <BrianE@an*.an*. uiowa.edu> Cc: "'techdiver@aquanaut.com'" <techdiver@aquanaut.com> Subject: RE: Dry Suit Hoods Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 11:52:44 -0800 I currently dive with an O.S. Systems dry suit with out an attached hood. The coldest I have been so far is 42 Deg. F. When I was shopping for my dry suit I tried on several with attached hoods as well as several with out. What helped me make my decision is that If I am going to be diving in water between 47 and 60 deg. F, I will not need the extreme thermal protection that an attached will offer. I also found it harder to pull on. On the forth dive of the day on a boat in the Channel Islands here off California coast where the air temp can be 100 deg F, I would be getting in and out of the too much for my comfort. I also intend on replacing my own neck and wrist seals (after a demonstration from my local SCUBA shop tech) to save overall cost. I can always purchase a new hood if I rip it on a wreck without having to replace or patch the my suit. Also I tend to dive in water at or around 55 to 60 deg. F and having the dry suit is just pure heaven, however, a hood is not always necessary when the air temp is in the high n 90's Robert A. Moriarity Sr. ramoria@un*.co* thenerd@ao*.co* :-O >-----Original Message----- >From: taylor@ru*.ne* [SMTP:taylor@ru*.ne*] >Sent: Saturday, March 15, 1997 12:05 PM >To: BrianE@an*.an*.ui*.ed* >Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com >Subject: Re: Dry Suit Hoods > >> I'm looking for comments on dry suit hoods: attached vs non-attached, >>neoprene >>vs latex. >>eddie-brian@ui*.ed* > >Depends where and what you are diving. If you frequently bump your head >into things and have to replace your hood, a detached hood has merit. For >diving in COLD water, I prefer attached hoods. If I never dove colder than >45 or 50 deg F, I wouldn't bother with the hassle of the attached hood. (I >also put on my dry gloves below 45-50) > > >Attached vs. separate: >I like an attached hood for warmth. When I had a separate hood I used to >frequently have a ring of ice water around my neck, not warm. Not a problem >with the attached hood. Another advantage to the attached hood is that you >can trap air in the hood. Gives you a warm, dead air space around your >head. Another advantage is that when you twist yourself into a wierd >position and that inevitable gush of water goes down your neck, you get much >less and it is already warmed up if it comes from inside your hood. > >Disadvantages: pushing your head through the neck seal is more of a problem >with an attached hood, twice the material to get past. If you have >difficulty getting past the neck seal, think twice. Until you figure out how >to vent the air bubble from your hood, it can be a real pain when it pulls >your mask up, flooding it and deforming your nose. > >Latex vs neoprene: >Neoprene compresses. Down deep, a neoprene hood will lose some of it's >insulating value. If you use an attached latex hood with some separate >insulator to wear underneath, you can put air in the hood allowing the >beanie underneath to expand and regain it's insulating value. The latex >hood can be sealed on your skin so that you have a dry head after the dive, >but I've seen people injure their ears when it seals too well and the hood >material is forced down the ear canal. Negative point on neoprene hood is >that like any other neoprene item it can eventually take on "that dive gear >smell" and if it is attached to your suit, it is a little harder to wash. >Another problem with the latex and beanie, is you can leave the beanie on >the boat accidentally. > >Having said all that, I use Viking with an attached neoprene hood, and will >not be likely to switch. I use this suit in the Great Lakes in temps from >34-55F, and the only time my head is cold is right after I get a haircut. My >wife dives in a latex hood and beanie. Since she learned to deal with the >bubblehead problem described above, she's been happy. > >Tim Taylor >taylor@ru*.ne* > >Whitefish Point Underwater Preserve web page and 1997 FSUPC Photo Contest >winners >http://www.rust.net/~taylor > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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