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Hi Brent. Although your desire to do things in the safest manner possible
is admirable, I must disagree with your claim that it is safer to breathe
the short hose while wreck diving. Doing it right, is doing it right -
whether you are in a cave or a wreck. We rig the same for both, Florida
caves or Great Lakes shipwrecks. The streamlined profile afforded by the
Hogarthian gear configuration is even more critical while swimming through
tight passageways with cables and shit hanging all over the place. Will
your buddy be able to re-stow that long hose when it is torn from you
bungees while swimming down that 3'x3' corridor ?
As far as not being able to donate air in tight situations, I submit that if
you cannot donate air to your buddy and exit the wreck safely, you should
not be there.
Have you taken a cave course ? If not, I would highly suggest it. It will
do more to hone your skills as a wreck diver than anything else.
I'm not trying to be a smartass, but the Hogarthian gear configuration has
worked for us on such wreck dives as The Empress of Ireland, Daniel J.
Morrell and the Northwind.
A good gear configuration (hogarthian) will work in any enviroment with few,
if any, modifications.
Jeff
At 11:55 PM 3/9/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello all,
> I hate to disagree with you but the truth is I stuff the long hose.
>Chris brown made a few good points actually all of them would apply. When
>diving down south in caves like that in Georges "doing it right" video I
>would see some advantage. Since I don't dive down south but wreck dive the
>St-lawerence in cold quick current I don't see the advantage of breathing
>the long hose.
> When wreck diving I see the "right" way to do it as breathing the
>short hose. While working through a tight wreck with your buddy following
>you it would be a poor idea to not stuff the hose. You want him/her to be
>able to reach it without problems. If your breathing it and your buddy can't
>reach it in a tight corridor there is a potential for a problem here.
> I understand your points and must agree with your style for the
>environment you dive. Where there is room to get close and get the long hose
>from your buddy. Thats all great for you cavers but the reality of doing it
>that way in the st-lawerence in tight wrecks is not a good idea.Unless you
>have a death wish.
> Do you want to be without air and deal with a paniced out of air
>diver??? Taking the air source out of your mouth in my opinion is not a good
>idea. As George said we must keep things simple. To many tasks result in an
>error. By take the reg out of you mouth you are without air(1). Then you
>must help a paniced diver(2). Then you must get a reg for your-self(3).
>Don't forget about keeping the silt down(4). Then you must take care of your
>line and avoid becoming entangled in a panic situation(5). Five things to do
>instead of letting your buddy pull out the long hose. Are you catching
>on!!!! All of this must be done in a corridor of 3x3ft or less. There is no
>room to play or mess up. Here in the river Chris Brown would survive and be
>able to help his buddy. Unfortunately you long hose breathers have just been
>added to the long list of statistic along with your buddy.
> As you probably see every environment requires a different
>configuration. I don't intend to insult any of you divers who breath the
>long hose because you probably are able to use it safely in your
>environment. Here for safety reasons we choose to breath the long hose for
>safety reasons. I do what is safe and doing it safe is doing it RIGHT!!!!
> Safety is the right way of doing it!
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