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To: Epic
To: Dive
To: Shop <epic@so*.ha*.ed*>
Subject: Re: Regulations
From: "Richard L. Pyle" <deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*>
Cc: Scot
Cc: Anderson <pp000082@in*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@opal.com
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 12:05:23 +22305714 (HST)
> > I feel the need to respond that I believe this is too much of a sweeping
> > generalization.  I know many people out here in Hawaii who have made many
> > thousands of dives well beyond 210' on air, some of whom have been diving
for
> > more than 30 years (one since 1946).
> 
> yeah rich... but that was before we knew what we were doing... no one told
> us what o2tox was back then... 

I dunno, Dennis....These people probably understand O2tox a helluva lot
better than many of us do - no, maybe not the physiology end of it - but
the REAL world end of it.....In principal, I certainly agree with you (as
you already know) - Why risk narcosis & O2toxicity when we now have the
knowledge & skills to do it "right" with helium.  Be we have to remind
ourselves - How does our couple of hunderd trimix dives compare to their
multiple thousand deep air dives?  As far as I can see - THEY'RE the REAL
experts - we're just students.  

> sorry dude, but don't you think you should include the one member of the
> group that died in the water after a 240fsw air dive...  i think that
> it is pertinent to this conversation.  now i *know* no one knows exactly
> what happened since this man (my friend too) was twelve miles out diving
> *alone* when the accident happened... but it seemed to me (and the docs
> at the chamber that checked him and his gear out) that he had an o2
> hit... either on the bottom or on his deco bottle.

If you mean Guernot Spalding - no.  I was only talking about my friends. 
I'd never met Guernot, and I'm not even sure that's how his name was
spelled.  Anyway, I was told his computer showed a maximum depth of 130'.
Yes, I had also heard that the most likely cause was an O2 hit - from
breathing his Oxygen at depth.  Perhaps if he only had air, he might have
made it to the surface? (I know, unfair speculation)

Anyway, thanks for jumping in....

Aloha,

Rich


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