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From: Carl Heinzl <cgh@ma*.ai*.mi*.ed*>
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 15:25:30 -0500
To: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Carl Lies

>I say:
>First, he did not tell me to reconsider anything he made a typical
>cowardly thinly disguised threat. My response he has kindly included
>here and saved me the effort. (Thanks Carl)

LIE.  I privately told you to reconsider your statement that I censor
ANY email.  THat was it.  If you still have that email, feel free to
post it.  If you feel that was a threat, you're even more paranoid than
I had previously thought.

>Now lets examine the rest of this cowards statements:
>1. I don't have to defend the 'censored mail" routine as he knows, the
>monkey army knows, and what's more anyone can see it. (They were not as
>clever when all of this first began) 

Ah yes, the cry of the opressed.  I've been CENSORING his email...  oh
my god.  You are so dumb it's not funny.  I still haven't censored any
email, but someone with you IQ would probably require a sledgehammer to
the forehead to realize that.

>2. Weather or not I have useless drivel would certainly be well beyond
>Carl's abilities to judge, since he knows nothing except how to do the
>bidding of his master.

HAHAHAHAHA... Tony, you're so funny.  I just have to laugh.  And you're
a TD - ohmygod.  I have to pick up some of your books (borrow them, I'd
NEVER buy anything you had written), just to read for laughs.  I wonder
if your writings have the same paranoid delusional tint to it.

>4. as for puking, I would to if I was under the same spell as you.

>Let me make myself clear: YOU did & DO censor mail, anyone can see that.

ANYONE can see that...  Gee, I wonder why you're the FIRST ONE to ever
say that.  There have been MANY disagreements with George, yet YOU are
the FIRST ONE to even suggest something this asanine.  You have taken
the cake.  It is obvious you are not someone to be trusted, believed, or
even dealt with on a rational basis.  You probably took too many
steriods back when you were body building.

>Tell us that all of the archives are intact and that the really telling
>stuff is not deleted in the interest of ONE individual ? Is this true
>Carl ?
>IS IT ?  Pull you head out of your rear, you pitiful the only thing
>people should steer clear of is cowardly petty minded servants like
>yourself.

>                                      I remain terrified at your
>proposal

Hey Tony, the *archives* are on aquanaut.com, in case you didn't know.
That machine is run entirely by JR Oldryoyd.  There is merely an email
address of the archiver in the mailing list, once it leaves my machine I
have no control over it.  I suggest you go tell JR Oldroyd that HE is
censoring your precious email or removing things from the archives.
But, this *MINOR* point is probably lost on you.  You must think that
I'm just SOOOO Powerful to be able to control the ENTIRE INTERNET that
I'm just sitting out there, waiting for more drivel, and lies (pure and
simple, if I've ever had any doubt about you, it has been removed) to
come flying across those T1 lines.  Once I see it I madly dash to all
the machines it gets routed to and crush your postings.  God does this
person have paranoid delusions or what.  I've got news for you, to me,
you are like an grub, something that infests my lawn.  Once a year I
spray to get rid of it.  That is how important you are to me, nothing
more.  Shoooo...

-Carl-
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