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Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 23:21:15 +1100
To: "j " <sumpdiver@ms*.co*>
From: anscott@hi*.ne*.au*
Subject: Re: State Of Cave Diver Training HORROR STORY
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Is it true that the latest craze in Florida caves is to have your stage
bottles stolen? I have heard that this happens so I dont find the behaviour
you describe extraordinary.


At 01:39 16/02/97 UT, you wrote:
>   On the ride to one of our projects sites in PA a NEST team member and I 
>were discussing the recent debate regarding the state of Caver Diver Training. 
> During the course of this discussion he related the following story.    
>
>   He and his partner where diving in Peacock last year and were 1500 feet 
>from the nearest entrance when they were confronted with a group of three 
>other divers swimming at high speed in line abreast heading toward them.  All 
>three divers were wearing doubles, were using primary cave lights and using 
>open water power kicks.  It did not appear to be an emergency situation since 
>none of them appeared to be sharing air nor did they request assistance.  In 
>fact the school of divers did not so much as wave as they blew by with a 
>massive cloud of silt following in their wake.   The visibility almost 
>immediately went to zero as they passed and remained that way for my friend 
>and his partner for quite a distance.   My friend believes that these 
>individuals were probably cave divers because of the distance into the system 
>and equipment in use.  I ask him if these individuals were butt mounting or 
>hose stuffing and he told me they were moving so fast and he was so busy 
>heading for the line that he was unable to tell. 
>    I can not think of any good reason why any responsible cave diver would 
>conduct themselves in this fashion.  Unless I have missed something this is 
>truly a sorry commentary on the these individuals and possibly the training 
>that they received.   Although an instructor can not be responsible for the 
>improper behavior of a student once he or she completes training it makes me 
>wonder how three individuals like this could make it through the system.  
>    On another occasion on a dive into Ginnie his team found that an other 
>diver had moved their line markers at a jump.  What is wrong with this 
>picture?????  
>     It is one thing to dive a configuration of equipment that may be 
>inappropriate for a site and possibly kill your self in the process, it is 
>truly another ball of wax to conduct your self in a manner that may endanger 
>the safety of others.  
>
>
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>                                                        JOSEPH KAFFL
>                                                    SUMPDIVER@MS*.CO*
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