why bringing something you wont use? Do you bring a Marlboro and a ligther with you too? ;-) scarlett _______________________________________________________________________________ From: Mark Welzel on Wed, Jan 15, 1997 10:08 Subject: Re: snorkel logic To: cobber@mi*.co* Cc: techdiver@terra.net; wreckdiver@wr*.co* If someone feels comfortable with a snorkel, and can stow it safely where they can get at it, what is the problem? Mark ---------- From: Jim Cobb To: Mark Welzel Cc: Tech Diver; wreckdiver Subject: Re: snorkel logic Date: Sunday, January 12, 1997 2:40PM You know you pro-snorkel guys are really stretching for reasons to drag a snorkel along. I mean you might as well use excuses like "in case an alien spaceship makes off with the dive boat" or "just in case all molecular activity ceases in compressed air tanks." There is a basic premiss in diving which should be recognized. Do not create a actual problem by equipping for an imaginary problem. The imaginary problem- A situation where not having a snorkel at hand will kill you. The actual problem- Snorkel on mask band. You WILL loose your mask doing this and, in the kind of diving we do, this could prove fatal. There is no conceivable situation where a scuba diver can justify keeping a snorkel on his mask band.- Stashing the snorkel in some frigging location. Where? I saw one moron stick it in the bands he used to attach his giant 8lb dive knife to his leg. Another guy took his apart and had the tube banded to the back of his tanks and the mouthpiece shoved in a BC pocket, along with a couple of lead weights. The more junk you have strapped to your legs, arms, harness, tanks, etc. the more likely you will (a) never use it, (b) loose it, our (c) get killed by it. I used to carry a snorkel on my mask band because that's how I was trained, and I hated it. It would get caught on eveything and I never used it. When it pulled my mask off one time, I started stuffing it in my jacket BC pocket, where I never used it. When I switched to backplate and harness, I simply could not see a reasonable place to put it, and I could not justify some heroic effort because I simply never use the damn thing. Nobody told me to loose the snorkel, there was just no logic in it. Jim >BTW, there are also any number of reasons that a diver might become >adrift in the ocean. From having his boat stolen during the dive to >getting blown off the wreck due to current and the crew on the boat >not able to find him in 12+ foot seas. And it is quite simple to lift >your head every so often to check your direction and look for help >while breathing off a snorkel. It's easier to swim face down while keeping >an eye on your target. And if you are in really rough seas, you're not >going to see much but spray and wave tops. Another thing to think >about is that in rough seas if you are face down any waves breaking >will break on your tanks, not on your face, snorkels are also quite easily >cleared if you get water in them during rough weather. > >Anything can happen, it's up to the individual to determine what >their needs are going to be during a dive. If someone starts >relying on someone else's hogarthian or whatever rig for all >their diving, then they won't be thinking for themselves and that >is where the real danger is. > >Mark -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by smtpgw.bcg.com with SMTP;14 Jan 1997 20:28:35 U Received: from iway01.bcg.com (onramp01.bcg.com [10.1.1.2]) by relay.bcg.com (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 244-13979) with ESMTP id AAA168 for <anderson.scarlett@sm*.bc*.co*>; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:20:19 -0500 Received: by iway01.bcg.com; id MAA24642; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:18:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from b2.terra.net(199.103.128.21) by iway01.bcg.com via smap (3.2) id xma024632; Tue, 14 Jan 97 12:17:37 -0500 Received: (mail@lo*) by b2.terra.net (8.7.6/jr2.10) id IAA18793; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:15:47 -0500 Precedence: bulk Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Received: from argali.terra.net (argali.terra.net [199.103.128.1]) by b2.terra.net (8.7.6/jr2.10) with ESMTP id IAA18759; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:15:46 -0500 Received: from stratrav.com (stratrav.com [207.111.87.2]) by argali.terra.net (8.7.6/jr2.10) with SMTP id PAA05815; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:15:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:13 From: "Mark Welzel" <mwelzel@st*.co*> To: cobber@mi*.co* Cc: techdiver@terra.net, wreckdiver@wr*.co* Subject: Re: snorkel logic Message-ID: <05015275@st*.co*>
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