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Janet,
You wrote "heap foul sewage upon me and my crew and my boat yet don't know
us".
Well, I have also seen the same tape of you guys that George saw, and I was
ROTFL. If you promote yourselves like that ... what did you expect?
BTW, being in a good physical shape has nothing to do with chauvinism nor a
"madison ave. model ideal of physical perfection", just use common sense and
try to figure it out...
Scarlett Anderson
Swedish Non-snorkel Diver
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From: Captain Janet C Bieser on Mon, Jan 13, 1997 06:15
Subject: Wahoo-Capt.Janet: Re: For the Record
To: techdiver@terra.net; techdiver@terra.net
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From: Wahoo-Capt.Janet
To: gmiiii@in*.co*, tech@aq*.co*
Subject: Re: For the Record
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:57:16 PST
Message-ID: <19970113.034335.2838.0.Wahoo-Capt.Janet@ju*.co*>
References: <199701130357.TAA17613@m2*.in*.co*>
what are you some kind of nazis? only a physically ideal person of the
superior race should go diving , hiking, parachute, swimming or any thing
else? do you want to put every one that dose not look and think like you
in a concentration camp and cremate them? Why can't every one that wants
to... dive , camp ,climb mountains , jump out of air planes, ride
motorcycles or what ever ? It is their own business if they drown ,smash
into the ground or get eaten by bears. it is just too bad if that
inconveniences you . you are guilty of wing clipping ....just because you
can't fly every one else should have there feathers cut. You would rather
see all the china brass and silver rot and smash than any one else have
it. last thing i retrieved was a soup plate ten feet away from the oregon
in the sand at 132 feet , i was collecting sea scallops to give to the
people on the boat, i suppose you think it would be better if i let it
get washed all the way away and gone. Mr perfect... You claim to know
everything about diving in the north east yet have never been diving
here. you heap foul sewage upon me and my crew and my boat yet don't know
us , just because i do not fit into your madison ave. model ideal of
physical perfection and am not a meek stupid barefoot in the kitchen dumb
blonde you insinuate that i am guilty of unnatural sexual preferences.
chauvinist !!!! for your information...(1) 50 nm south of nantucket is
really no place for sport fishermen boats to be, period . ( i never see
them out there )the place is infamous for nasty weather that will
overwhelm a lightly built vessel before they can retreat to safe harbor
through nantucket shoals & weather reports are not reliable the only
other shipping i ever encounter out there are big commercal trawlers,
long liners, the occasional dive boat and ships (2) Fishermen abandon
monofilament line,trawling wire, down rigger cable, and marker buoy line
(similar to reel line) and nets ,and it covers all the wrecks so you are
constantly cutting or( yanking to snap monofilament) some of the wrecks
in the mud hole require you to swim with a specially modified butcher
knife known as a mud hole knife in your hand. Any one with a boat and a
loran can dive the wrecks , and abandoned poorly run lines litter the
inside and outside of the wrecks wafting around in the surge and tangling
all concerned. i don't make deep penetration dives with out running a
line but it is a bad idea to count on the line exclusively ( or even more
than a little) to find your way out I do not advocate NOT running a line
.much of the wreckage is razor sharp because of electrolysis (cave
trained divers ignorant of local conditions have severed hoses) divers
commonly gash open their suits and selves in the surge , some neophyte
may cut your line out of ignorance because there is so much line and
string around . local divers that visit the same wreck for thousands of
dives know the interior of their chosen favorite so well that they can
find their way around in zero visibility . Hank really can find his way
from any where in the san diego in zero vis. that is what is meant by
progressive penetration, but you CAN get lost and drown....their
choice... like i said no one controls access to the wrecks and once you
jump off my boat i have no way to influence what you do. some people
choose not to where a seat belt in the car too . who ever advocates one
method for every person and every environment is some kind of mentally
unstable crack pot .what do you want, a police state where every aspect
of life is legislated? (3) tell me something do you follow the thirds
rule when collecting lobster on open water dives ? or just reserve a
comfortable and safe for you amount and then swim back to the boat along
the bottom or at the surface ? As long as you are not lost inside , you
can just surface , or to decompress shoot a tethered bag and go up any
time you want to ( although it is better to use the anchor line ) you do
not need to reserve a fixed ratio of air to exit , the amount varies with
each dive. following the thirds rule is ok too, that works . it may be a
little over cautious to have to swim up the 80 feet from the mooring at
the shallowest point of the wreck to the surface and get back on the boat
with 2600 psi in double 120's , but i like to get back on the boat with a
little over 1000 psi remaining in my tanks after the decompression.
solo diving is not a controversy i want to address. (4)A long hose seems
like a nice idea for helping out of air strangers , it really never
occurred to me that some one from another boat would happen to find me
off in the distance away from the wreck in the sand spear fishing ( where
i spend most of my dives) and just happen to need air, and not find the
standard hose adequate in open water it is a remote possibility , i may
purchase one but a stronger drowning diver my be able to kill me too any
way. it dosn't seem to me to be that inconvenent to dive with (5) what
kind of a nut would advocate DEEP AIR and what do you mean by deep , i
feel like sh** when breathing air deeper than about 220 feet and avoid
diving air deeper than about 200-210 and i am still not in my comfort
zone until about 190 . why do you think the wahoo people advocate deep
air ?? we have a policy of not permitting air diving deeper than 200 feet
since the availability of mixed gas. the tie in on the doria is at 176
feet. You never used to have that option. Mix diving is just great...
best thing since they invented the submersible pressure gauge. (6) what
do you mean by plan .....plan every aspect of every dive ? You may have
to rigidly plan everything when exploring and surveying a cave but when
people wreck dive all you have to do is not get lost , and have enough
air or gas plus an appropriate extra reserve to finish the dive and
surface and not get bent. usualy it is x number of minutes or y psi
which ever is first then return to the anchor line and ascend, you just
wander around where ever your fancy takes you , keeping track of where
you are in relation to the anchor line. new divers stay close to the
anchor line or run a reel. what is your problem? don't you realise that
not every dive has to be a ridgidly planed ,major production federal
project Define technical dive may be we have the wrong idea....are you
talking about long, deep trimix dives with extensive penetration into new
wrecks ? Or is spending an hour at 130 feet collecting game or taking
photos on a wreck as farmiliar as the inside of your own house, then
using nitrox and oxygen as decompression gas and argon for your suit a
technical dive ? may be we are talking apples and oranges. perhaps you
are getting hysterical over nothing ??
janet
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