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Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 16:59:09 -0500
From: Mark Welzel <mark@mr*.co*>
To: Alex Varouxis <alexv@er*.co*>
CC: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Doing it Right (or I wanna be a hero)
Hi Alex, I see your point but can't a ROV be down longer or 
virtually indefinitely? They use them all the time commercially
and even for that Titanic & Bismark stuff. So I think you can
get several miles of scope on your cables. If silting is a
problem can't you get it through the restriction, wait for
the silt to settle - even if it takes hours, then continue
your mission?

You can send a ROV into smaller openings, down into deeper
depths, further along the system and they can stay down
longer ALL at no risk to humans. You can design ROV's for
specific applications as well. I would also venture
to guess that insurance on robots would be cheaper than
the insurance on the team members on WKPP's projects.

Another point to consider is that the data retrieved from
an ROV would not be biased by the diver and would be available
to any necessary persons or agencies in its unadulterated form.

As far as entanglements I will admit I know little of the inside
of caves. Perhaps you could have tender ROV's watching the
cable for the "push" machine?

I would think that this might be worthy of further investigation
especially if you were seriously interested in mapping cave
systems. Not as glamorous as doing yourself, but definitely
safer. I guess it would depend on the objectives of those involved.

My thoughts,
Mark


Alex Varouxis wrote:
> 
> Mark
> 
> The amount of cable and the structure of a cave make this impossible. The
> tether would get tangled the ROV would kick up of silt. In this case a diver
> can do many times the amount of work than an ROV. The next problem would be
> the cost of the insurance for the ROV being used in a cave.
> 
> Regards Alex
> 
> At 02:39 PM 1/2/97 -0500, Mark Welzel wrote:
> >George, if you guys are so interested in DOING IT RIGHT and
> >SAFETY can you tell me why you risk your lives when ROV's
> >could do a better safer job exploring those nasty caves. Hell,
> >you would probably be done by now and could get on to some
> >other worthwhile project with your "team".
> >
> >But, of course YOU wouldn't have the end of the line, your
> >robot's would. It would be the BEST way, though. And you are
> >a stickler for BEST, regardless of cost. Or are there areas
> >where even you will weigh cost vs. risk?
> >

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