Reply to:     RE>>The long hose strangler

Mark,

Try sharing air with a long hose in the open water sometime. 

IT WORKS BETTER than any other configuration.

Even in an open water situation there may not be a SAFE place to 
surface. The long hose allows the dive to continue SAFELY (ie
you and your disabled buddy beating the crap out of each other)
until there is a good place to surface (some drift dives are 
conducted this way)

Steve Hogan
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Date: 12/31/96 1:44 PM
To: Hogan, Steve
From: Mark Welzel

I personally don't like a long hose on my gear. I understand
that if an out of or low on air diver shows up it's easier to handle
that situation with a long hose. Honestly, what percentage of
folks using the long hose are going to ever need it? I have
successfully and without any trouble had someone on my
"short hose" second reg more than a dozen times in the
last 16 years. That experience has made me feel that for
myself I don't need a long hose.  I consider, for the diving I do,
a longer hose has more points for failure, it has more chance
for entanglement and snagging even if properly stowed.
If I run into a diver in need in a narrow confine it would be
a benefit, but the odds of this happening are less than
the wreck collapsing in on me or someone else, does this
mean I should always have a car jack with me? (ok,
sometimes I do).

From what I can gather from this list, a long hose is a
good idea for caving due to restrictions and the fact
that many, if not all, cavers dive in teams. My diving is
solo, I rarely come across another diver where I go and
if I do I will usually escort them back to safer turf. The only
time I meet up with other divers is on my way to the surface
and then I don't NEED a long hose.

That's how I feel. Yes there is a great deal of equipment out
there and techniques developed that would provide the
maximum safety and preparedness at all times. But for
me the expense and the depreciation of my diving
experience does not warrant incorporating everything
possible for an event that will PROBABLY never occur
to me. The ultimately safe practice is to stay out of the
water. If the WKPP wanted to be the safest they could they
would incorporate ROV's and not expose themselves to
the risks they do. I doubt there is very much they are doing
that an ROV couldn't do, and one could stay down for
far longer periods at probably less expense, albeit less
fanfare for those involved.

..for what it's worth,
Mark Welzel

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From: Tennantm
To: mwelzel; techdiver
Subject: Re: The long hose strangler
Date: Monday, December 30, 1996 7:47PM

Mark

And, what does this have to do with the long hose?
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Subject: Re: The long hose strangler
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