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Date: 22 Nov 96 11:35:50 EST
From: "Alexander L. Paul" <73771.507@Co*.CO*>
To: "Michael J. Kravit, AIA" <73521.457@Co*.CO*>
Cc: Cavers <Cavers@ge*.co*>, Carl Heinzl <cgh@ma*.ai*.mi*.ed*>,
     "George M. Irvine" ,
     Ken Sallot , Techdiver
Subject: Re: Reply to: Martin
Mike:
         Look at the address on the post to Harris supposedly from  you. It says
Mike Karvit and uses  Kravit@Ga*. Obviously this is a fake.  Whoever it is,
its obvious not only are they good at it but that they are trying to show a
breakdown (that does not exist)  in the solidarity of the team. I'm going to
call Carl this weekend and see if he can figure a way to insure that fakes don't
get on the list. Its enough fun engaging in slamfests using real names without
dealing with fake contributors who don't just use fake names but now choose to
use subscribers names.

        I will say this, whoever is doing this certainly has the scorecard in
their favor when trying to show the downfall of fake posts. It appears to me
that it is a vendetta. It involves zero humor and is based in total destruction.
Who has the motive and the computer smarts to pull it off? 

        Whoever it is is winning if there motive is to have all knowledgable
contributors leave.  I know I'm about to drop the lists as I can't tell anymore
what is real and what is not. I think for this very reason George and the others
should get back online to help expose who this fuckhead is and be part of the
action to cause the demise of this individual instead of sitting back and
letting this shithead ruin the lists single handedly.

         Lets face it this person can have two way conversations utilizing the
identities of any members he or she chooses so why not join in. If you can't
stop this piece of shit you might as well fight he or she as this will surely be
the last days of participation by real players on the lists. I will appeal to
Carl and state that in my opinion, if there isn't a way to stop this bullshit
the list is done as far as any useful purpose due to the lack of verification of
any transcribed information.

          It is a shame because Carl may decide to just say fuck it. Its a no
pay pain in the ass to deal with this type of BS and why the hell should he have
to deal with it. He may just decide to end it all and we all lose. I know I
won't bother joining another one if this doesn't work, none of them will. I
think it is up to all of us to find this piss ant and put an end to the fakes or
agree that the lists have gone past the point of having any useful purpose

          If everything posted has to be verified by telephone, or face to face,
then there is no use getting info,  giving it  or having any discussions on that
information..............
BTW, I'm sending a copy of this to the lists and to Carl in hopes that some form
of action is possible and will be taken if it is.
Take care ............................Alex

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