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In a message dated 96-11-08 22:03:34 EST, GarlooEnt@ao*.co* writes: << hank this guy is talking about the wilksbarr , they should use net floatsthey don't crush down to some tremendous depth 10,000 feet, that's what we use >> Hank, Not the the Wilkes. This is a wreck off of Canaveral. 240' of cool nasty green southbound current. The times I've been there, it has been pretty shitty (compared to S. Fla). 36 mile run from the nearest port and in that part of florida, you've lost weather protection from the Bahamas. It is the closest thing we have to northeast type conditions in east Florida. Over on the gulf side you can get very close to NE conditions with cold springtime water temps and even longer runs than up north. But unlike up north, if you just wait a bit it usually clears up. Of course in the summer, when you guys still have unpredictable weather and cold water, all we worry about is getting sunburned! << hank, these guys are hysterically funny. they do not understand,compared to down south YOU CANT SEE SHIT under water . >> I agree. putting a drum on a wreck is a waste of time. If you put it shallow enough to see on most days, then it gets cut off by passing ships. Other days you wont see it or spend just as much time looking for it as it would take to anchor by other means. Some people down here think it works....what can I say? << we have to use a fathometer to find the wrecks, not a diver on a rope. If you do not havethe grapple waiting on the wreck (neatly balanced on the shallowest part)the mate comes up and gives you that beaten dog, betrayed look . >> That's nothing! If I don't put my buddy on the wreck and he has to waste his dive, he sticks the anchor into some rock, sends up the OK float and makes me waste my dive...what an SOB! << On a smaller boat you have NO business being out there. >> In S. Fla, you have the Bahamas and Cuba as your pulling guards, blocking most of the big nasty stuff from ruining things. Small boats are OK here, anyplace else they're not so cool. Up north they are downright stupid. I learned that the hardway when I was visiting my cousin on Long Island a couple years ago. We almost lost his 28 footer while diving and the weather turned nasty. << sometimes when you send a lift bag up to hang on, the fudging thing never reaches the surface because of the current. then you have to swim up the line and add additional lift bag that is why you carry two reels and two large volume lift bags . >> Never heard this one before. You're not talking 2 Jersey reels are you? What size liftbags? What size and kind of line? I tried some of this around here with 100# and 200# bags. On strong current days I could not get a bag to make it to the surface or the line would pop. This was in a little over 2kt measured current. Whenever I've dove up north, we never had any ripping currents. But, I only have about 15 dives up north, when visiting family, and all were weenie dives. << the current is so strong that the wahoo is throwing a wake at anchor( but is only .75 kt) our people are used to this and( unless they are new and don't know how to act) every one is fine and has a good time . The "nantucket wreck" is notorious for towing 52 inch tuna balls under and you have to go follow the rope into the sand off the wreck and send them up with lift bags when and if the current subsides. >> How strong do the currents normally get up there? I've had people tell me 5 to 6 knots, but I find that hard to believe, especially because they told me they were diving in it! I believe most ocean currents do not get over about 1.5 kts. Only in places where the current has to go through a restriction (like between Florida and the Bahamas) does the velocity increase. Tidal flow on the other hand is something else, those can rip at incredible speeds, but are not usually a factor far offshore. << The water is nice down south , if visibility sucks they cancel charters. they use smaller boats( be cause they can) it dose not get rough as often, they can pick and chose from a vast amount of nice calm days , so they just don't go if its rough. >> Yeah, but most of the wrecks suck the high hard one. If it was one ounce more trouble to go wreck diving down here, I would quit wreck diving altogether and concentrate on reefs. Luckily, a few years ago, we found an unknown wreck that keeps us entertained trying to identify it. All the cool wrecks are north of here. Whenever it starts getting cold and rough (relative to our summers) and people start to moan about the lousy conditions, I know I can count on my transplanted nor'east buds. They won't back down. Hell, at times they make me nervous when they're at the wheel and they gun it as we get to the inlet and hit some ten foot green rollers in my 23 foot boat. Damn Union boys are crazy! - Tony
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