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What are you talking about George, to much caffenine again, I do not remember advocating a bit of strokery I do and always will support personal freedom and the role of education in preparing folks to be able to make an informed decision. Even if I did every sinle bit of configuration identical to yours 1005 of the time I would still beleive in education and thinking divers not dictators and robots We all know you consider yourself as SCUBA God and we aree supposed to bow down and put our brains in your back pocket so you can think for us, sorru pal I just cannot accept your radical point of denying people a broad spectrum of information to base their decisons on nor can I accept that one configuration is perfect for all people under all circumstances. You are right I have not been to the end of the line at Wakulla so what you do not have one third as many dives as I do and so what on that too. The fact is you do not beleive in providing access to enoung information to allow one to make an informed decision. Your idea of informed is do as I(you) do and ask no question just accept because you do it It must rreally be comfortable to wake up each morning so in love with yourself and the knowledge that you are the only person who knows how to do any thing right, I guess you are fortunate because I look around the world and I see a lot of people who although they do things differently than I or you they are indeed still doing it right and safely. In fact these visions of others allow me to periodically improve my own needs. Then again I'm mereley seeking perfection and you apparently have acheived perfection oops I,m sorry you have created perfection in your image George WKPP started gas diving around 1990, I do not rember seeing you make a gas dive until after you were cave certified in 1991. In fact, the first time I'm aware of you doing gas dives was in 1992. I did my first gas dives in 1958 I taught gas diving at the UM RSMAS from 1969 to 1976 , What makes me knowledgeable on the subject is a lot of time doing it, teaching it and supervising gas diving projects. You remind me of a spoiled little brat who sits in a cornor and cries and screams everytime he does not get his way. It is true you did go to the old end of the line at Eagles nest with Sheck and Larry Green. You know I'm also getting tired of your lies about what Parker said , Parker and I were quite good friends and he used to call me concerned about you and some of your old habits, Parker was the one who convinced me to take over the TD position at NACD again, we co hosted IEC's and yes he did invite me to Wakulla. I have no doubt that you do have 50,000 logged dives most likely 25,000 cave dives all to the end of all the lines in all the cave s in the world, oh hell in the universe. No one has done anything , contributed or accomplished anything except you our dear God george. Tom mount You wrote: > > > It appears that the Pope Of Personal Preference, Tom Mount, is over >on Compuserve recommemding a potpouri of gear strokery. I hear >that when asked to justify the logic involved with stupidity like >hose-stuyffing, none is forthcoming, only the answer , " I have more experience >than you". > > Well, Tom, you do not have more experience than me at serious cave >diving, and you can not name one single solitary itsi bitsi little individual on >this planet that does jack on scuba in a cave that does not do it the way the >WKPP does, and the only reason I even make the qualifier "on scuba" is to >accomodate my freind, Olivier Isler, who holds the distance record using a >semi-closed rebreather. > > We hold ALL of the other records, and we have the end of the line in >virtually EVERY backmount cave in Florida , and all Powercave, we do MORE it any >other way. We have been gas diving in cave since LONG before you started IANTD, >or anyone was teaching trimix, we have been long range scooter diving before you >ever had a scooter ( you still do not have a proper one), and we have been >exploring and adding line in deep cave that you have not yet even been diving >in, even though it has been there all along, and you supposedly teach this kind >of diving - maybe I should start teaching helicopter pilots. > > So what gives? What makes you such an expert? In my opinion, your are >the absolute worst guy to listen to on gear, as you have never used it for >anything, or you would not be making such a complete fool out of yourself >arguing with the pros. Why don't you find something else you have never done and >claim to be an expert in that? Sounds pretty silly , but that is exactly what >you are doing with cave diving gear. > > It is time to stop paying attention to gear salesmen who use >silliness to promote their stuff, stop promoting gear that does not work >properly, and it is time to stop listening to people who can not explain why >they do what they do (you are the latter). With all of your "experience" , >surely you can come up wtih something other than "personal preference" as a >reason? > > How about that list of strokes you promised me that stuffs hose ? I >need a good laugh. So long as you are going to ignore reality and be >condecending over where nobody knows any better (Compuserve), than I don't mind >being my usual honest self, and pointing out that you have not done a single >thing in cave diving ever, and it is time that you pull the cotton out of your >ears , and put it in your mouth, before I get on here and tell everyone exactly >who named you Tom "Mouth" in the first place, and why. > > You are doing nothing but damage with this nonsense, and a huge >disservice to all of us. I wil again remind you fo what Parker said seven yers >ago in that training committe meeting, "come to Tallahassee and elt us whow yuo >uwhat is going on in cave diving", to which you reolied with some nosnense about > thirty years experience , Tai Chi breathing, etc. - Then Parker said, > > " TOM, LOOK WHO HAS THE END OF THE LINE" > > > Guess what , Tom, today , it is HIS STUDENTS , NOT YOURS > > You keep trying to reinvent the wheel, and leave the diving to us. - G > > PS - don't tell me you have 10,000 cave dives, that would be as many as your >boy who makes the gear, and neither one of you has a single real one, in my >opinion > > By the way, I just looked at my logbook and discovered another 50,000 >cave dives what I had forgot about, another twenty years of diving, and I saw >where I was trimix diving as a child. I also see from my baby pictures where I >got my first regulator, and I stil have a picture of the dive class I taught >with Jacques Cousteau in it with Falco blowing me. > > Oh, wait a minute, these are your lines, not mine, sorry! > > > > >
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