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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 1996 11:53:09 -1000 (HST)
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.ha*.or*>
To: Anthony Montgomery <amontgom@ha*.ed*>
Cc: techdiver <techdiver@terra.net>
Subject: Re: constant ppN2 was(Re: CO2)

> > Now let's take the reverse.  Suppose a diver starts at 20 feet with a 
> > certain PCO2 in the loop, and then descends to 200 feet.  The volume of the 
> > loop is held constant by the addition of diluent and O2.  Unless there is 
> > an appreciable amount of CO2 in the diluent or O2 supply cylinders, then 
> > the PCO2 will NOT increase on the descent, because the "n" will not 
> > increase (where would the addition of CO2 molecules come from?).  Ya with
me?
> > 
> Rich,
> 
> 	Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the same principle that
> allows you to dive with a constant ppN2, right?  

Yes.

> 	My question is a tangent, but once you ascend you lose most of
> those N2 molecles,right.  So is your decompression mostly heliox and how
> does that affect your deco profile, if at all?  

Alright, for the benefit of anyone else following this, let me explain 
the constant PN2 stuff.  I start my descent with a setpoint of about 1.4 
and air as diluent.  When I get to about 100 feet or so, I switch the 
diluent feed to heliox and keep going.  This "locks in" a certain number 
of N2 molecules in the loop, which means the PN2 stays relatively 
constant regardless of how deep I go (yes, yes, I know some of the N2 is 
lost by absorption into my blood, and some more is lost everytime I clear 
my mask, but this is pretty-much trivial from a decomprssion standpoint, 
and when it's not trivial - I handle it in a different way - see below).

When I ascend, both N2 and He are vented from the loop, while the 
solenoid does what it can to keep the PO2 up.  When I get to about 130 
feet of so, I flush the loop with air, so the helium is all gone, then 
finish the deco on nitrox/oxygen (yes I know that some helium is 
trickling out of my body into the loop on decompression, but given the 
extremely low solubility of helium in blood, this is a very small 
volume). The computer, of course, is keeping trak of all this.

> 	Also, do you lose most of the N2 on dives where you have to go up
> and down(just 20" or 30') or do you avoid that kind of profile?

Excellent question.  That's where the problem comes in - sawtooth 
profiles. If I have a fixed PN2 in the loop at 300 feet, then ascend to 
200 feet, a good portion of the N2 is vented.  If I then return to 300 
feet, only heliox is added, so the PN2 goes down.  I used to compensate 
for this by manually adding N2 to the loop and gauging the PN2 by the 
level of narcosis.  But I decided this wasn't scientific enough, so i did 
some calculations, and I now use a trimix with about 5-10% N2 instead of 
heliox.  

I'd be happy to elaborate further, but Cara just woke up from her nap, so 
I gotta run...


Rich

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