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Date: Sat, 02 Nov 1996 22:13:09 -0500
To: cavers <cavers@ge*.co*>, techdiver@terra.net
From: jhcarson@ma*.ne* (Jeff Carson)
Subject: Re: Takin' the hose (was long hose)
Cc: George <gmiiii@in*.co*>
>To: <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
>From: jhcarson@ma*.ne* (Jeff Carson)
>Subject: Re: Takin' the hose (was long hose)
>
>what is it that you would like to know?  you sound like a man who likes to
argre for the sake of argueing.  am i right?  every year people are dying
because of misinformation.  during the 80's two of the most visable DEEP
divers were adored and agrandized for their great accomplishments of deep on
air.  i have lost several friends who died from being provided with bad
information.  this is only one reason why georges tone is the way it is. you
said why dont we packege our stuff and sell it.  there is one very good
reason, we dont mix buisness with pleasure, because if you do, then money
becomes the most important objective.  our most important objective is
OPTIMIZATION. we are not in it for the money.  as a matter of fact we spend
over $6,000 every time we get into the water for the woodville karst plain
project.  listen sport, when you can look me in the eyes and say you are
doing everything you can to make sure that the people of florida have clean
water to drink, not today but today and 40 years from now, then we will have
a common reference from which to understand one another.  until then, 
>
>THRILL ME WITH YOUR ACCUMEN!
>
>
>and no, we havent done anything just for the sport of diving, the work we
do and the money we spend out of our own pockets, benefits the entire state
of florida.  have you ever done ANYTHING that will outlast your years?
think about it.  the person you have been addressing is the leader of a
project, the benefits of which will outlast all of us and he is my teammate.
i hope this INFORMATION helps you gain a new focus.
>
>jeff carson
>orlando, fl.
>wkpp
>
>>On 11/02/96 05:52:49 you wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Awqaudart - I am indeed an expert on gear-rigging. Do you want to argue
that 
>>>with me now? How about technical diving - that is what we are here for?
Do you 
>>>want to show where I am not an expert? Let's hear it, or quit the attacks.
>>>
>>>George M. Irvine III
>>>DIR WKPP
>>>1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
>>>954-493-6655 FAX 6698
>>>Email gmiiii@in*.co*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>  
>>Boy George,
>>
>>You are an expert?  I'm so sorry.  Some one forgot to tell me that the
illtempered egotistical jurk was an expert.  I keep 
>>asking you to cut the petty crap and say somthing of substance.  But all
you do is spew forth the same shit.  "I'm the best, 
>>I'm the greatest, he is a stroke, I'd like to see him do that, Blah, blah,
blah, blah ad nausium.  
>>
>>With all due respect George, (translation...  If I respected you I
wouldn't have to say this) you have done nothing to 
>>enhanse the safty fo the diving comunity.  You have done nothing to bring
better training, better gear or better techniques 
>>to divers as a group.  Yes you have Bill Gavin building your shit.  But
that is Bill Gavin not you.  None of these 
>>"improvments" are helping anyone outside your little group.  If your
Products are so great why not patent them and produce 
>>them?  Or have you already violated patents?  Maybe that is why you don't
offer them for sale.  Just wondering.  Others ARE 
>>improving products, improving training techniques, and offering it to the
diving public.  You are NOT an expert in any of 
>>thouse feilds.  
>>
>>You are an expert in egotisum, arogence, And foul language.  As for gear
riging, you adopted another persons phylosiphy in 
>>riging and adapted it to your siuation ( tell me again George, why do we
call it "HOGARTHIAN" not Irvinean).  You are an 
>>expert at nothing!!!  You have taken the best ideas for the best pepole
and adopted them ( That is a polite way to say STOLE 
>>George)  I seriously doubt that you have ever had an oridginal idea of
your own.
>>
>>You have aquired a great deal of knowledge.  However it means nothing if
you cant or won't make it available.  In short, I'm 
>>sorry to be the one to tell you this George, but you are dilusional.  You
don't have a firm grasp of reality.  And before 
>>you try to trash me for all the things I have not done, remember I never
claimed I did!!
>>
>>Bill <aquadart> Bott    
>>
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>>
>

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