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Date: Sat, 2 Nov 1996 19:55:03 -0400 (AST)
To: techdiver@terra.net
From: nstn3158@fo*.ns*.ca* (Nick & Wendy Seemel)
Subject: Seizures
I went delete crazy trying to clean up my mailboxes so I lost the original 
question but I thought it was good that someone figured this list might be a 
place to get some info about dealing with the Rescue of an O2 hit victim.   
I think the question expressed a concern over approaching and handling the 
victim during a seizure.

My comments here reflect my research as I have not ever dealt with an actual 
case but here are some considerations.  In the initial phase of the O2 
seizure the body will become rigid along with little or no breathing and a 
loss of consciousness.  Than the convulsions run their course, normally not 
more than a few minutes followed by a slow recovery normally with a 
spontaneous restart of breathing.  If the regulator remains in the mouth  
through the initial stages most definatly hold it in place because when the 
victim begins his recovery he is not with it and will drop the regulator, 
also the first action in the recovery phase is often a big inhalation.  It 
may take a lot of time for the diver to become conscious and subsequently 
aware but with a mask on and a regulator held in place he should be able to 
breath throughout his slow resumption of awareness.  As far as handling the 
convulsing diver, it is common to believe (thanks to Hollywood) that 
convulsions are extremely violent and your chance of injury as a rescuer is 
high.  The truth is that convulsions are not "full travel" muscle spasms 
with violence they are in fact mostly very small to medium movements that 
are somewhat rhythmic, not flailing about, and there is no grabbing or 
hitting, as stated by someone else the panicked diver is a far greater 
hazard to the rescuer.  You can get close and personal with the victim and 
manipulate him into the position you chose to use to carry out the rescue 
while holding his regulator in his mouth.  Do not ascend initially, his 
throat is not likely open during the seizure and an accent could have the 
same effect as holding his breath.  Once in the recovery phase (when the 
convulsions have stopped) start your rescue accent.  If the regulator is not 
already in his mouth you will not be able to put it in place during the 
seizure because his teeth will be clenched in most cases, however 
immediately following the cessation of the convulsions he may relax, 
briefly, prior to breathing, if you could get the regulator into his mouth 
(purge) at this moment it may work out.  If he chokes when he begins 
breathing, hold the regulator in his mouth obviously.  Decompression 
considerations will be different in each case so I will not comment, I think 
G covered that anyway.  If you come across the victim and he is already full 
of water and unconscious that is a more typical rescue of an unconscious 
diver which I do not think was the original question.

A few last thoughts, he may bite his tongue further complicating your 
efforts and a practice rescue accent from a deep dive is required, as the 
typical Rescue Diver courses I've seen generally are done in shallow water 
and doing a rescue accent from a deep dive is a handful especially if you 
are both in drysuits with stage bottles and other gear.

I welcome comments from others with more experience and will withstand the 
inevitable flaming (and will probably learn something) but do sympathize 
with the original questioner.  It is very difficult to get good training in 
all aspects of diving especially in "tech" diving and in each geographic 
area there will be specific limitations to getting good training, no matter 
how hard we try.
I've got my Nomex on.

Nick Seemel
PS: After writing this I am tempted to take up solo diving a la JimH

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