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From: <David.Miner@gs*.ge*.co*>
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 1996 13:58:39 -0500
Subject: Re: Training
To: "\"Cavers\"" <cavers@ge*.co*>,
     "Franz Van Der Molen" <6822.192@co*.co*>
Cc: "\"Techdiver\"" <techdiver@terra.net>
     How many times are you going to post this shit???
     
     Dave


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Subject: Training
Author:  "Franz Van Der Molen" <6822.192@co*.co*> at Internet2
Date:    11/11/96 1:15 PM


   You can not braeth the long hose and stage dive. It's quite obvious to me and
just about everyone else except the "Irvine Wannabe's". Why would anyone have 
a 7' or 9' hose on their stage bottle? They wont, so as a result, while you 
are stage diving, youre not breathing the long hose. Maybe things are different 
in Florida, but out here in California, that's not how we do things.
     
   If we just take the density of water, and the curve of the drag efficiency,
we
see that a drysuit just makes no sense when scootering. At least if you are 
trying
for any sort of distance.
     
   There are other things you guys just have all wrong. Like the idea that you
have
to be an olympic calibur athelete to do these dives. Everyone knows that to do a
scooter dive requires no special physical training. And gas diving? The average 
american can competantley do recreational mixed gas dives.
     
   As for rebreathers being "magic carpet rides", you're bnarking up the wrong
tree
there. Rebreathers have been around longer then conventional SCUBA equipment, 
and
they are better tried/tested. Plus they're just safer, when you can have all the
equipment to do some of these dives in a compact case, it just makes better 
sense.
I teach all of my cave classes that they should consider taking a rebreather 
course
from me when they're done, so they can get some experience on the rebreather and
make the dicision for themselvs.
     
Franz
IANTD Cave/Rebreather Instructer
     

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