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Date: 29 Oct 96 18:11:11 EST
From: "Alexander L. Paul" <73771.507@Co*.CO*>
To: "\"Cost effective home imp" <FREEATTIC@CO*.CI*.UF*.ED*>
Cc: Cavers <Cavers@ge*.co*>, Techdiver <Techdiver@terra.net>
Subject: Re: DiveRite Transpac
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TO:	Alexander L. Paul, 73771,507
DATE:	10/28/96 7:45 AM
Re:	Re: DiveRite Transpac

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Subject: Re: DiveRite Transpac
To: "Alexander L. Paul" <73771.507@Co*.CO*>
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I Wrote this letter to Tom Mount and as of yet have received no response. I
asked George if when he and Tom got together to bug dive, if he would take this
note and try and get Tom to reply but still no word so at George's request I'm
submitting it to everyone on the lists in hopes that Tom will see it and
respond. If youz guyz have any comments I'd be interested to hear them as well.
Thanks........................Alex

 Make a version of this for the list - it is really good

On 27 Oct 96, "Alexander L. Paul" <73771.507@Co*.CO*> wrote:
>Subj:  DiveRite Transpac		Section: Technical Diving
>  To:  Tom Mount, 102567,3457		Saturday, October 26, 1996 9:20:19 PM
>From:  Alexander L. Paul, 73771,507	#336074
>
>Tom: Thanks for your in depth response. I'd like to have a long conversation in
>short direct issued segments to better understand your motives for the way you
>feel. Would this be alright? You know how much I respect you and so I really
>would like to get a clear understanding of why. You certainly know that I am
>completely sold on the methods and configuration as practiced by the WKPP to
>which I know that you also openly admit to being very suitable for this sort of
>team project. My first question...... and by the way this is private. I'm 
really
>not a grandstander and I think the static from the grandstanders will detract
>from our conversation. Well anyway my first question and comment is that in all
>military and police training that I'm aware of, in responding to high stress,
>panic and emergency action it is deemed imperative that the action neccessary 
to
>survival in a life and death situation is based on the theory of a conditioned
>reflex response. Do you agree? The reasons as it is described to me is that
>under situations of extreme stress, panic and the drive to survive the brain 
can
>lose its ability to fully reason and function in a logical fashion and so the
>conditioned reflex needs to take charge of the situation. If the needed action
>is hampered bu variations other than what has been trained for it can impede 
the
>effectiveness of the response. This is why police departments conduct combat
>training excersizes, good guy, bad guy night fire training all against the stop
>watch ticking away with a certain number of rounds required to be fired
>accurately at different stations.  etc. etc. Its to put the responding officer
>into an auto pilot mode so that the brain isn't utilized when its impossible to
>think clearly due to the stress of the situation the same with the military. In
>both organizations they utilize identical issued gear so that everyone knows
>everything about everyone elses gear as well as they know there own. Needless 
to
>say this offers the advantage of not having to think about alot of details that
>ultimately adds to the confusion and clouds the ability to focus on whats 
really
>important.....survival. So I guess my question to start with is why is cave
>diving any different, All are hostile potentially disasterous environments and
>so why would the response mode be different for one and not the others. I guess
>the thought that no variation breeds total familiarity and consequently 
promotes
>a safer encounter is what is stuck in my mind. I know its radical and not real
>world to expect that all cave divers be equipped identically but it sure does
>sound as if, if there could be an agreement on the universal configuration,
>emergency response and technique it would ultimately lead to the conditioned
>reflex  making everything easier when it came to potential disaster avoidance. 
I
>too had a transpac and other backplate, wing combinations and configurations 
and
>though my experience level does not approach yours I have honestly found the
>WKKP method to be clean simple and easy to dive and I think it interesting that
>it really is the most basic of high quality lower overall cost gear. It is
>taking a step back to an apparently more efficient time......I'll wait to hear
>from you. Thanks alot Tom.......Alex
>
>

George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*


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