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From: "Marc Dufour" <emdx@ac*.ne*>
Organization: 3615-CUL
To: Cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@terra.net
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 19:59:14 -5
Subject: Re: Recommendations for Frogs
Le/On28 Oct 96 @ 9:57, vous ecrivites/you wrote:

> Just for your information...
> 

> It is really too bad that there is still a contingent of Frenck
> Nationalists that have the mentality of frogs.  I have personally
...
> these kids are in their teenage years.  It still amazes me that the
> older, and mostly uneducated ones that think we are the problem of
> the world.  

Of course, you conveniently chose to blatantly ignore the fact that 
those kids are far more vulnerable to earlier generations to the 
ceaseless bombardment of american culture that is exported abroad; a 
good example is the Eurodisney theme park near Paris (now, this is 
ironic: Disney's most milestonesque "cultural" achievements are 
adaptations of European - and a lot of those are French - littary 
works; by contrast, for example, Warner Brother's cartoons are 
genuinely american and as thus have far more humorous appeal - but I 
disgress).

Taste for French culture is not easy to acquire; it evolved through a
considerable amount of centuries. American culture, by contrast,
being without significant historical perspective for the most part,
does not have a strong financial commitment from either government or
the cultural elite, so it has to survive by catering to the lowest
denominator of society. To do so, it has to be easily graspable and
has to be palatable to the largest selection of people. This explains 
why the biggest cultural hits are movies who appeal to the most basic 
and primitive human instincts.

Indeed, by their constant plundering of worldwide ressources, 
americans are a genuine pain in the butt for the rest of the world. 
It is bound to be when a country that houses 5% of the world 
population sucked-off more than 25% of it's wealth. Only uneducated 
ostriches (or those who get their daily doses of CNN, CBS or whatever 
private network news) would feel that this is not a proper assesment 
of the situation as it is.

> The post that George made was probably inappropriate, because of
> its generalisms, although this French idiot, seems to be one of
> those few, well, you know, and certainly deserved the slamming for
> his uneducated version of how the world is/was.

Of course, I am uneducated because I am not able to afford CNN... 
Fortunately, for those poor people, there is a wide assortment of 
european media available to those whose bigotry does not limit them 
to understanding only one language...

Perhaps some detractors could benefit from travelling abroad.

> We unfortunately still have the same problems, and if you will
> think about it for a moment, you will remember that there is a
> contingent of african americans who still harbour resentment
> towards the white population, for reasons that we, all of us, can
> only read about for the most part, as none of us was there during
> the slave trade days. This French idiot seems to be of the same
> mentality.  Too Bad.

If that contingent of Coloured people (even though they are 
politically correctly called "African-Americans", many people have 
the word "coloured" flashing in their heads) did not face daily 
racism that denies them the right to have a proper education, to make 
their own minds instead of having it pre-made by the mass-media that 
shows them violent shows riddled with commercials that make them buy 
junk food that is not food for thought, maybe they could face life 
with the same degree of assurance that the white people is almost 
guaranteed to have.

> That is all I have to say on this matter.  Let's hope that this
> moron will keep his unrequested rhetoric to himself, and if he has
> such a problem, then he needs to stay in France, or Quebec, or
> wherever he is.

The rethoric is as unrequested as some Florida Cave diving god 
flames, but it will be posted nevertheless.

> Charles Strasburger

You're from Strasbourg? But that's in France!!!!

------------------ Pour la Republique Francaise du Quebec --------------------
Thanks to American influence, instead of thinking on how solve social problems
or feed everybody properly,the elites of the world only think on how to expand
their wealth, personal power and influence at the expense of other people. Our
children will be happy to live on a planet left in shambles by those "people".

~~  Last dives: still the Aloha, the Effie Mae & the Wolfe Islander, 25 mfw ~~
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   Marc Dufour - [\] ACUC6 31874 - TDI CD-0197 - http://www.accent.net/emdx 

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