At 09:01 PM 10/26/96 -1000, you wrote: > >This is what I meant by the "Signal to noise" thing. Chris said "when >following the model" when he was talking about the longer shallower >stops. I've had many long conversations with him about deep stops, and >he understands them. Hence, your senseless bashing is just noise. NOBODY, >not even you, advocates deep stops as strongly as I do. I was doing them >ten years ago. I don't know why they work - I know that the evidence >points to bubbles, but I'm not about to fall into the same trap that >weenies who religeously follow their compartment models did by assuming we >"know" something that we do not. Yes, deep stops should be "required" >stops, just as "safety stops" from no-D dives should be considered >"required" stops. It's probably the same underlying principle for both. No doubt about it from our standpoint. BUBBLES are the Issue! The problem is in getting a "Model" to generate them as part of the model, and NOT as a arbitrary insertion. Just adding the deep stops is simple. I am after a model that predicts the neccesity of the stops being there to begin with. > >Chris, a more constructive suggestion is that yes, compartment models can >very easily give better shapes to deco profiles. All you have to do is >lower the M-values of the faster compartments. Yes, this will shorten >"no-D" time, but as you well-know, there really is no such thing as a >"no-D" dive. What it will do for many traditional no-D profiles is add >some short shallow stops, which look suspisciously like "Safety stops". > Agreed. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A NO DECOMPRESSION DIVE!!! We started working on some new numbers over the weekend with the RGBM side of Abyss. Bruce Weinke has sent us some new data that will have a "potentialy" significant impact on the repetitive side of our diving. Should have some interesting results in the next week or so. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Christopher M. Parrett, President Abysmal Diving Inc. 6595 Odell Place, Suite G. Boulder CO, 80301 USA Makers of ABYSS, Advanced Dive Planning Software. Phone: (303) 530-7248 Fax: (303) 530-2808 File Transfer Site: ftp://ftp.abysmal.com/pub/abysmal World Wide Web Site: http://WWW.ABYSMAL.COM ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rule #1 If We Don't Take Care Of The Customer.....Somebody Else Will. "Its not so much what we do, but how we do it that really matters."
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