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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:16:42 -0700
Subject: WHY WE DONT BUTT MOUNT LIGHTS
To: techdiver@terra.net
Cc: cavers@ge*.co*


 I spoke to Jarrod Jablonski, and he reminded me of a few more reasons why we
do 
not butt mount lights. We are really sick of going over the same stupidity, and 
sick of hearing hard-headed strokes insist this dangerous bullshit is a good 
idea. We can not always be expected to remember all of the stupid mistakes of 
the past that we have long ago forgotten.

 I hear Tom Mount now teaches butt lighting aznd proper lighting. Tom, is this 
like sticking your dog's nose in his own shit when he schmoos the rug? Maybe I 
shold teach the rookies in my office how to calculate a bond yield with their 
fingers or dial the phone with their feet. Maybe I could have them practice 
reading yesterday's paper or talk into the wrong end of the phone. 

  Get serious - you are dead wrong on this bullshit, and your insistance on 
perpetuating something you learned from a bunch of half-wit red necks is 
apppalling. Get over it. 

   Here is why :

   Why we do not butt-mount lights:

1) We use this position to tow scooters and to tow buddy in an emergency - his 
head is tucked in behind the tanks. We also keep the exploration reel there 
sometimes, and or the liftbag in wreck diving. 

2) We do not plaster our tanks with d-rings and convoluted crap like what is 
required to butt mount. 

3) We do not use metal to metal connections of any kind, and we do not clip 
things behind us that can not be unclipped from the front with one hand by 
reaching through - in the case of the scooter, it is clipped to the front and 
pushed back through.
 
   *** By the way, whoever is the moron of the century that is teaching people 
to put brass rings with brass clips around tanks necks needs to be shot on
sight 
- how stupid are these guys?***

4) We do not have loose things or entangling devices behind us that can not be 
freed from the front with one hand and one motion.

5) We do not sit on our lights, bang them on tanks, or have any sloppy gear.

6) We do not expose our lights to damage of the cord, switch, or lid 

7) We do not put heavy objects on our legs (or on our knees in the case of 
121's), and we are not stupid enough to use the Neutralite (which is neutral, 
but square). We need the extra weight of the Gavin light, but in the right place

8) We do not use extra long cords that catch on everything just so we can put 
the light in the wrong place

9) We do not reach behind us to turn on our lights , and we do not want them 
knocked off at an inopportune moment because the switch, cord, and interface
are 
not protected. We are not stupid enough to use a twist-on light head, an MRI 
light head, or any other silliness like it.

10) The concept of "less drag' is total bullshit - the light on the hip is in 
the lee of the shoulder where it is protected. The less drag bullshittters do
no 
real diving and do not know what they are talking about - it just looks good to 
them because , like monkeys, they saw some other brain-dead moron doing it

11) We park our long hose under the canister in its routing. The long hose does 
not need the canister to sit properly, but it is much neeter, and the hose will 
be tight to that point and not catch anything. The hose is where it is because 
the whole system is built together - a different subject - we have worked all
of 
this out for every kind of diving, and do not change one thing as it causes 
something else and then something else to be changed, and pretty soon you are 
back to nothing functional.

12) The cord routing is a real mess and interferes with the stages and all of 
the other gear, or requires some hideous convolution of routing to keep it out 
of the scooter wash, out of the wreck or rocks, and generally out of trouble, 
and then you have some completely unsafe mess on your hands.

13) Only a complete and utter stroke would butt mount, and you will find that 
those who do either are 1) complete idiots, 2) have copied or been taught by an 
idiot, or 3) sell dive gear and can make the most money off of this ridiculous 
horseshit, which they will tell you ususally requires a list of horrendous crap 
so expensive as to equal the price of real gear plus a scooter. Your instructor 
is then riding YOUR scooter, and don't forget it.

14) If you can name one guy who does any serious diving like this, I will kiss 
your ass in Macy's window . 

15) Just ask whoever taught you this stupidity about their biggest dive, how 
much gas it took, how long it took, and put it on here so we can all get a huge 
laugh.

16) Look at my video , "Doing It Right", and tell me what you think. 

17) If you flood a butt light, or in the case of the dive rite, WHEN you flood 
it, the thing becomes extremely negative and casues the associated problems 
being in that position.

18) Butt Mounters demonstrate a total lack of forsight and dive planning 
comprehension - tantamount to an admission of strokery, and according to rule 
number one, we do not dive with strokes. 

19) If you have been stupid enough to do this or teach it, it is time to admit 
you are wrong, and "do it right".




George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*

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