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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 16:28:26 -0700
Subject: RE: NACD BOD Mtg
To: "Tom Petty" <speleoman@ms*.co*>, cavers@ge*.co*,
     "Elena Casson"
     ,
     gmiiii@in*.co*
Cc: techdiver@terra.net

 Tom, this sounds good to me, but where have you been? - G

On Wed, 16 Oct 96, "Tom Petty" <speleoman@ms*.co*> wrote:
>It seems rather obvious what George has in mind: 1) Gain control of the NACD 
>for his own purposes and those of the WKPP, 2) Then kick all of the rest of 
>the cave divers (including instructors) out of the organization (or at the 
>very least run them off with his obnoxious predjudism).  Are you thinking 
>ahead to what happens then?  Cave property management and access, training and 
>certification all based upon what gear George thinks you should buy and how 
>George thinks you should put it on.
>     There are some that think that this is an exageration but the more you 
>understand the "I'm okay but the rest of the cave diving world that doesn't 
>agree with me is a dumb redneck" attitude the more you understand that this is 
>predjudism and egomania in its purest, ugliest form.  I know for a fact that 
>Lloyd Bailey doesn't believe it ( you'll have to get rid of him George).  I 
>know that the NSS board doesn't believe it ( I know, George, you think that  
>all of them are ignorant fools, too).	
>     95% of the cave community aren't fools, George.  On the whole, they are 
>well educated, intelligent, thoughtfull people.  Mother nature has a way of 
>taking care of those cave divers who are not (natural selection).
>       In any activity, professional or not, there is more that one method 
>utilized.   
>You have helped to develop a very successfull method, George, that works for 
>you.  The vast majority of the community uses other gear and other methods 
>that work for them.  The safety record of the community proves the other 
>methods are safe as long as you follow the rules of cave diving.  ---------
>From: 	gmiiii@in*.co*
>Sent: 	Tuesday, October 15, 1996 9:04 PM
>To: 	Elena Casson; cavers@ge*.co*
>Cc: 	techdiver@terra.net
>Subject: 	Re: NACD BOD Mtg
>
>
>
>On Mon, 14 Oct 1996, Elena Casson <ecasson.hrp@ma*.he*.uf*.ed*> wrote:
>>To all:
>>2.  Jarrod Jablonski was appointed to the board to fill the remainder of
>>Milledge Murphey?s term as an instructor board of director. 
>>Unfortunately, the term for this position expires at the end of 1996.  The
>>board is nominating Jarrod to keep this position at the Annual Membership
>>Meeting which will be held at the NACD Workshop on November 9th. 
>
>    Elana - this is a big step in the right direction. Now we need to make 
>Jarrod the Training Director, get his new book out, and really get some 
>quality 
>on the teaching front that matches what we are doing on the access and 
>environmental front. 
>
>    We can spin off the old school, and they can start the National 
>Association 
>for Misinformation, Redneck Stupidity, and Useless Gear Sales as a third cave 
>divin' group.
>
>    We need to move forward, and it is obvious who in this communitiy is doing 
>
>that, and who is hiding in the shadows complaining, hiding cave, selling 
>non-functional gear, and doing nothing for any of us, and it is time to turn 
>this around.
>
>     WKPP will do everything it can to help this organization shake off the 
>goobers and get with the program.
>
>George M. Irvine III
>DIR WKPP
>1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
>954-493-6655 FAX 6698
>Email gmiiii@in*.co*
>
>
>

George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*

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