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Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1996 22:41:09 -0400
To: trout@mo*.gu*.ne* (Jesse Armantrout)
From: jwei@ci*.uf*.ed* (Jim Wei)
Subject: Re: SPG and Reg on Deco Bottles --- George Jump In here
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Trout, this whole thread is so fucking stupid.  If you don't want use spg, fine,
see if I care.  Just don't waste my hard drive with stupid arguments.  

Jim 

>As a minimum, put button type spgs on deco bottles and real spgs on stage
>bottles.  Any bottle being dropped must be checked at the point of dropping.
>If it is not what you expect, the dive is over.  Even if you are carrying
>the bottle with you the whole dive, the peace of mind is worth it.  If you
>try it both ways, you will agree.
>
>Come on guys, this is tech diving 101.
>
>Trout
>
>At 06:41 PM 9/24/96 -0400, ALongtin@ao*.co* wrote:
>>In a message dated 96-09-23 09:27:14 EDT, anscott@ns*.co*.au* (Scott
>>Leimroth) writes:
>>
>>> I would agree that, yes the diver with the spg may have some slight
>>>  warning of a problem however it would most likely be only slightly more
>>>  warning than diver with no spg because if it were only a slow decrease
>>>  in gas supply then it would most likely be from some sort of leak and
>>>  would be visibly detected by the nospg diver as well. Even if the diver
>>>  with the spg were to have prior notice of failure of a gas supply he
>>>  would still only have the same options as the nospg diver if gear
>>>  configoration were the same, ie same gas supply options ie. he either
>>>  has no breathable gas for deco or he has (it may be a backup of the gas
>>>  that failed or it may be some other substitute, or it may be nothing but
>>>  H2O).
>>>   If the decrease was relatively sudden eg. reg failure, then both divers
>>>  would only have relatively little and the same warning if any at all.
>>>  Either way both divers are now faced with a lack of supply and face the
>>>  same problems. 
>>>  So why, if everything is relatively the same, introduce by way of an spg
>>>  an extra chance for failure? eg. o ring, hose failure on this addition.
>>
>>Some good points here... So what your saying is that no matter if there is an
>>spg or not, a diver should be able to spot a problem that would result in
>>loss of air. 
>>
>>Okay... But then you don't want to leave that bottle without the spg out of
>>your sight. So that means this paticular 1st stage can only be used for deco
>>bottles, which you would have to keep on your person throughout the dive. 
>>
>>Wouldn't it just be easier to standardize all your 1st stages with an spg? I
>>can concur that an spg isn't really needed for a deco bottle, but if I were
>>to use a 1st stage for a stage bottle, it would definatly have to have an
>>spg. Since the bottle would be out of my sight for some time, I would want to
>>be able to verify the psi once I picked it up again.\
>>
>>>  Surely it's not just to have that extra piece of teckie equipment that
>>>  everyone else has down at the shop/boat.
>>
>>If an Spg is teckie equipment, then we better invite every rec.scuba diver in
>>here to. It's just easier to have an spg on all your 1st stages, so that they
>>are interchangable for different applications.  Sure, you could sit there an
>>swap an spg on it if you needed to, but my buddies already bitch that I take
>>to long to get in the water.
>>
>>>  Am I right George?
>>>  and where's my free tape?
>>>  Scott
>>  
>>ALongtin@ao*.co*
>>
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>
>
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