Dear George, Thanks for the insight -- it seems that from your description that they may have learned some things ie: safer - the right way etc. but they have not yet gone out there and accumulated the dives. It is easy to copy ones writing style --especially on-line -- use famiiar phrases -- get indignant everyonce in a while --- So who are the Todd's and TriMix and these others we never see on the boats or at the cave sites? A question to give little thought to. t/c Thanks Joel Silverstein
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