In message <199608232343.TAA154898@os*.ga*.ne*>, "Michael J.
Kravit, AIA" <mkravit@ga*.ne*> writes
>I have sat here on the sideline reading about all the animosity directed
>toward the WKPP, and of recent, especially Jarrod Jablonski and George
>Irvine.
>
>Jarrod Jablonski is one of the most level headed, cordial, caring and
>talented individuals I have met. He is educated and experienced. He has
>not and would not hurt a fly. Literally!  Those that take pleasure
>knocking him of recent, have really missed the boat.  I am totally
>offended by this undeserved, ill conceived nonsense.  I can only assume
>that those responsible have either never met JJ, never trained with him,
>or are totally dysfunctional individuals.
>
>The WKPP is doing something here in Florida that we are very proud of. 
>They are involved in surveying the Karst plain in an effort to provide
>information to the State which may allow for the purchase of these
>environmentally sensitive areas. Namely the Floridan Aquifer, which as
>residents, we need for our fresh water supply.  Much of this political
>crap seems to be generated by those not living within Florida. Those that
>have super saturated egos, and those that have nothing better to do than
>rake the silt.
>
>Yes, George Irvine can be tough, and is a strong personality. But, he is
>on a mission. He does not want to see divers die. He has seen what the
>various training agencies are teaching and as he puts it "is horrified". 
>The messenger is certainly not always diplomatic in his presentation, but
>then again sometimes the truth hurts.  I know George personally. I have
>spent time with him and can affirm his commitment to the State, his team
>and the cave diving public.  Let us throw out the bath water and not the
>baby.
>
>It is time for those that take pleasure in the WKPP bashing to STOP.  Fun
>is fun, but when it gets out of hand these things become destructive. 
>There is a greater goal involved with this project than giving a bunch of
>guys access to deep caves.  We must find a way to protect the valuable
>water resources that we here in Florida value so very much.  It truly is a
>shame that many in the WKPP will no longer frequent these lists with their
>experience and expertise.  I find it sad and unbelievable that some person
>can target Jarrod Jablonski just to get his kicks.  Sure George is fair
>game, he is quite adept at defending himself, but JJ?  
>
>Those of you that have been involved with the letter writing to the state,
>the name calling, the fake e-mails and the like know who you are. You also
>need to know that this whole situation has gone well beyond tolerance. 
>Fun is fun, but when it becomes destructive it is no longer worth any of
>our time, effort or expense.  There are some recent discoveries by the
>WKPP that will be shared only with the State officials. That is a shame,
>because I believe they would be of interest to all in the cave community. 
>It is a shame that certain individuals could take this information and use
>it to hurt the WKPP and in turn, that endangers the project and the future
>of our well being here in Florida.
>
>Thanks for listening.
>
>Michael J. Kravit,
>Boca Raton, Florida
>WKPP Member


Mike
          I guess this just about sums the situation.  I guess it's a
fact of modern life that the 'have nots' will continually take
things/spoil things for the 'have's'.  That is of course until enough is
done for a knee jerk reaction - which is what is happening.

Every success.


Regards

Chris Hellas

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