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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 10:47:28 -0600
From: HCHARRI0@wc*.co* (HCHARRI0)
Subject: Re[2]: Silent Majority-Cheers!
To: SpeloDiver@ao*.co*, Barry Miller <millerb@fr*.TL*.fl*.us*>
Cc: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@terra.net
     My sentiments exactly - in much more eloquent prose than I would have 
     used.  George and WKPP are the only group I have ever seen in ANY 
     exploration-oriented sport that are truly committed to scientific 
     research, open discussion and dissemination of knowledge gained, and 
     above all, DOING IT RIGHT.  How many of those strokes will freely 
     admit that they are ready to change their methods any time a better 
     and safer way is developed?
     
     Keep up the good work, WKPP.  Results talk - bullshit walks.
     
     
     H. Cliff Harrison                           Opinions presented are
     Woodward-Clyde Consultants                  my own and in no way 
     9950 Princess Palm Avenue                   reflect the positions
     Suite 232                                   or policies of my
     Tampa, FL  33619                            employer.
     
     (813) 626-0047
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     HCHARRIO@WC*.CO*
     
     


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Subject: Re: Silent Majority-Cheers!
Author:  Barry Miller <millerb@fr*.TL*.fl*.us*> at Internet
Date:    8/17/96 12:30 AM


  Again we here from someone ashamed to sign their name. You spend too
much time listening to someone like Chris Brown who makes up stories 
to promote himself, and it seems you have fallen into his alure. You 
may not like what George says or what anyone one else with WKPP has to 
say, but YOU CANNOT PROVE THEM WRONG. Instead, you find ways to 
discredit them. What would you have these people do, shut up and not 
share information they learn. Close the door to new people? 
  The way opinions are shared have seemed to get people talking about
the issues, this is good. If anyone thinks that a practice is unsafe, 
or a peice of gear is defective, it seems the only way to get others
to listen is to scream at them. Most of the issues are really old news, 
but were not shoved in our faces like we do today, so they are 
forgotten.
  The biggest problems comes from people like you and Chris Brown, who
to promote yourselves, bitch about others because you cannot prove them 
wrong. Your use of pharses like "King George" is a good example of 
this. You bitch about how others talk by using the same words. But
what is worse is, you hide behind a no-name account. At least others 
stand behind what they say by letting others know who they are. Could 
this be because those you speek against are RIGHT?
     
     
     
Barry
     
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