mr.speleodiver (or should i call you chris?).the way it's obvious to me that you are not a "wkpp insider" as you claim you may be is simple.the wkpp is a team.we think,act,and are one team.none of us would ever do anything to put down the wkpp like you have.you are obviously someone who feels comfortable hiding in shadows and trying to put down the wkpp because you feel somehow,inadequate.you obviously can't stand on your own two feet and lack the tools necessary to do what we do,and as a result you feel threatened by what we can and have accomplished as a team.just wait until you see what we're going to do. heres the scorecard: we have brought more people into our project then any other project of its kind.we produce real quantifiable results.we get the job done when other people have said "theres nothing left" because they were scared.we do not produce bullshit results (surveying C tunnel on air is bullshit,no one is good at 280' on air).we share our information,training,equipment,experience with anyone who asks politely.we are out here trying to protect a resource,and teach people about our sport and how it can be safely done.others who have tried to do what we do charge $500 per person to be involved in their project,produce bullshit results,dont accomplish anything,then lie and cover up what really went on.the do nothings and know nothings resent us because we produce results when they can't because they are either too stupid or too ignorant.the sad thing is any one of them had the opportunity to get on board and do some "real diving" with us if they would just follow our one rule.but they couldn't bring themselves to that point and so prefer to just sit around the parking lot in ginnie springs telling everyone how fast they go to the hinkle and how great of a cave diver they are.so mr.speleodiver,next time you decide to hide behind your mask,answer one question for me:who has the end of the line in all the major caves? - john todd
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