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On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, gmiiii@in*.co* wrote: > > >On Sun, 11 Aug 1996, techvid@ne*.co* (Brown, Christopher) wrote: >>George -- you said: >> > >>Excellent rescue response -- which I do wish I'd seen -- the exact kind any >>of us would hope for -- no question. It would be great if you'd elaborate >>to the lists about WKPP's emergency medical protocols sometime. > > I did, and you obviously did not read them. Not going to do it over and over, >not going to respond to every littel nit-picking argument when ai tell you how >it really is. > >>My buddy didn't drown due to my performance. But I often wish that on that >>day I'd had the same towing speed as a gavin scooter and several rescue >>trained dudes assisting on the way up and at the surface. > > Your buddy drowned for the same reason everyone else has drowned at Weenies >Nest - deep air. If you all had not been violating rule number one in a huge >clusterfuck, it may have been different, but when a project more resembles the >Star Wars bar scene, like most do, where everyone's "personal preference" and >lack of training and skill are in evidence, luck is all you can hope for. > >>I've never tried to cause you problems -- I wasn't anywhere near the place >>when you had a problem -- so don't try to shift blame for this one to me. > > You have been going out of your way to criticize my running of this project, >despite my track record - you and everyone else - too bad, it has not worked - >our goals are more important than keeping a bunch of goofballs happy. > >>I'm just stuck with this goofy notion that cooperation and respect are more >>effective methods for reaching difficult goals than division and derision. > >Then give it a try, and quit hiding cave - you know damn well who actually gets >it done and who is capapable. When you and all of your "qualified buddies" are >through , drop yor cocks and pick up the phone - make sure you at least put >enough line in so that we don't have to do our usual , which is add line just to >get the first stage bottle down, and don't weenie in power cave like your boy >King does, and claim it is walled out. > >>BTW, thanks for the offer, but there are some other qualified folks I'd >>rather turn the cave over to, when I've done what little I can in there. > > You have produced no useful data on anything, and that is because you are the >one who is not cooperating. Our data is on file at several Government offices, >including the County Planning Office, should you like to see it. Tell me where >yours is? You and your buddies are riding our coattails and hiding the >information. We are trying to recommend what land to buy, and you are jerking >off. There is no justification for your behavior. We are not going to scoop you, >we do not have time to do anything that can be done by somebody esle - call us >when all of you have reached your limit, and that does not mean as soon as you >have to turn on a light. All we need is data and information - we can not >possibly dive all of the cave we have access to right now. I only have time for >one kind of dive, and the training and preparation required to do it. We >allocate our people according to need - it would be nice if we did not have to >go back and resurvey all of the stuff that you guys hide, and all of the stuff >inn State Pars, like Manatee, where your idiot buddies constantly lay line >without surveying. > > Chris, the bottom line is that you are a complete hippocrite - you have no >intention of doing anything worthwhile, and you are still fighting the guys who >are trying to protect this resource while supporting the derelicts and the >wannabees. > > We do not care about the good old days - we have an urgent job to do, have >assembled the team and built the euipment to do it, and the time for action is >right here and now. We are not trying to aggrandize some quaking weenie by >spending millions of dolars to get him where he does not realy wnat to be, or >trying to sell rebreathers that do not work, or transformer packs or any other >nonsense. We are not trying to get paid to make films films. We are not trying >to get paid to do environmental work. We are not mercenaries, we are not sitting >around waiting for the magic carpet or some dillatante to fork over money so he >can dive - never happen with me around, or any other WKPP members. We are not >pretending to be big tough guys. We are risking our lives and stretching our own >personal resources to do something that we have , as a team, worked on for ten >years. > > What have you or your buddies done for us lately, besides get in our way, >badmouth us, send email to everyone trying to get us displaced, hide possible >parts of Leon Sinks from us, put line in without surveying or reporting data, >pretend there are better ways of doing something none of you even understand, >and make cave diving and cave divers look bad by your slobbery , inefficiency, >goofery, and inefectual perfomance? > > You can question me when you , or any of your buddies, can even understand >what I do or how I do it, and that is never, since the personal price is too >high for all of you. Hell, you can't even quit smoking, let alone do 25 100's on >1:15 and then run 4 miles, go home and work on your twenty five regulators and >six scooters, check every piece of gear, put $300 worth of helium and oxygen in >23 tanks and three sets of doubles (just in case one leaks), burn test lights >and scooters, knot anouther 3,000 feet of line, get the van serviced, take off a >day of work each week and drive 1000 miles, etc. > > Come to think of it, I am real tired of useless assholes like you, and the >rest of the cave diving community , always running your mouths, and nvever >contributing to the sport, to the protection of possible dive sites, or to the >undrstnading of the resource that all of you big timers think you are the >masteres of. Kiss my ass. > > >>Christopher A. Brown >>Sci-Graphica PR and DOCENT FILMS >>The Technical Diving Video Library (TDVL) >>(N.Am. & Canada): 1-800-373-7222 >>Outside US:904-942-7222 Fax:904-942-1240 >> >>Life is short -- this is not a rehearsal. >> >> >> >> > >George M. Irvine III >DIR WKPP >1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316 >954-493-6655 FAX 6698 >Email gmiiii@in*.co* > > George M. Irvine III DIR WKPP 1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316 954-493-6655 FAX 6698 Email gmiiii@in*.co*
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