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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 1996 16:02:39 -0700
Subject: Re: private: from "Dr. Z"
To: cavers@ge*.co*
Cc: techdiver@terra.net


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From: gmiiii@in*.co*
To: "Cost effective home improvement" <freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Subject: Re: private: from "Dr. Z"
Sender: Maiser@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*


  John, just for the record, we added miles to your lines in the Woodville
Karst 
Plain, and you weenied everytime it got the least bit tricky or deep, and that 
goes for all of you. When you wake up and start acknowledging that we are by
far 
the absolute best, and quit criticizing me, you will see a different attitude 
from us, but not until, and that goes for all of your buddies. When you can 
display the comittment we have, then you should be allowed to dive in the good 
stuff. 

  Bill Main put the Madison  line in swimming on a tripple, and I do not want
to 
hear yor whinning about swimming, as I can outswim anyone in cave diving, as can
Jarrrod and most of our team. I do not want to hear your excuses about being a 
fat slob, as that is self-inflicted, and you have been using that excuse for 
years, and as long as I have known you.

  The fact is , you stink, and you have been recommending bullshit like square 
lights, criticizing me and Bill Gavin, whose ability you can never understand, 
and you have assembled the biggest colection of losers on this planet who 
collectively are interfering with the great work we are doing.

   You, and the rest of the cave diving community have been on our asses for
ten 
years, seven on mine in particular, and the fact is that I could outdive all of 
you within the first ten cave dives I ever did.  You have criticized me for my 
scooter diving ( even though Exley told you quite differently about me) when
you 
have no concept of my gas consumbption or skill, and you have done everything 
you can to cause me problems, despite the fact that Exley put this in writing
to 
you and Stone, and you supress it. I gues that is becsue yo are afraid of the 
same thing that happened with Sheck - he left you guys nothing to explore unitl 
moma Stone hadd to ask him to hold back for the babies. Well , this time, we 
have more important things to do than see that unqualified dillatantes get to 
add line in Wakulla - you guys need to go down to Mexico and get with Gerrrard
- 
he has a perfect setup for all of you.

    I will remind you continuously that neither you, nor anyone in your band of 
weenies can take the pebble from my hand, and you never could, you never will, 
and since you have aligned yourself with Jim King, a complete dillatante, I
will 
continue to remind you and the entire community just what kind of weenies you 
guys realy are.

   You are all a bunch of mercenary bullshitters, and none of you has any 
business in our league, and none of you has any purpose in this activity other 
than as power of example of how not to do things. Now , try keeping your 
alligator mouth shut about me, and tell your mutant buddies to do the same, or
I 
will continue to hammer you guys at every opportunity. 

   Also, about trippling our distance - you idiots could not even handleWeenies 
Nest, so what makes you think you can do the real thing? You guys completely 
bumbled Sally Ward, and weenied unmercifully, you bumbled the first Wakulla 
project, and that was because you refused to let the real divers dive, you 
completely missed the boat in Big Dismal, and weenied on the good stuff, you
put 
a weenie line in Sullivan both ways that is shy of where we drop our first
stage 
bottles, you completely missed the biggest conduit in the USA from Innisfree
(by 
the way, I need to publish the letter that your boy King wrote about trying to 
displace WKPP in there, a real eye-opener), you guys weenied at Dark Water, you 
weenied at Turner in the basin, and you have done absolutely nothing for the 
protection of these caves while criticizing and attempting to undermine those 
who do.

   Like somebady popinted out, Doug Hand's mother went further in there than
you 
guys, and I added 1000 feet of line to where King and Green weenied on my first 
look at the cave downstream, and Gavin and I added 4,000 to the point where
King 
weenied upstream. I also properly surveyed the place, which was beyond King's 
ability to do, and found out where the cave realy went. I read his report where 
he lied abou the cave, saying it was walled out. John, you could fly a 747 down 
the passage that he weenied in both ways - a 747, just like you could fly a 747 
down the passage you weenied in at Big D.  

   I suggest you retire, and take that pathetic bunch of misfits with you. You 
are the one who needs to learn to keep your big mouth shut, take the cotton out 
of your ears, face reality, adjust your attitude, have some respect for the 
leaders in the field, and basicly shut up about me  and the WKPP. - G
    
      

   

George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*


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George M. Irvine III
DIR WKPP
1400 SE 11 ST Ft Lauderdale, FL 33316
954-493-6655 FAX 6698
Email gmiiii@in*.co*

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