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From: <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 1996 17:54:14 -0700
Subject: Re: Doing It Right
To: John Morrison <bildebmo@so*.ne*>, cavers@ge*.co* (George Irvine)

  John, interserv is one of those servers you need to be Bill Gates to know how 
to use. They change the IP addresses and machines without telling subscribers, 
they change the software so that scripts must be altered and don't ell us, etc. 
I usually have to use another service to search for the address, or URL of my 
own freaking mail amchine, enter it into my dialer codes, and then log in. 
However, once in , is is a powerful thing. When they do this, it appears I
don't 
exist. I just fake myself until I figure it out. This time took me a full day, 
and a lot of wasted time to get the new DNS IP andress of M2 Interserv, my host 
. 

     Give me your address, and I will send the tape to you. I will include a 
return address where you can send back $25 to WKPP, plus whatever postage you 
see on the enveloppe. 

      If any of you have received this, and not sent the money, please do. It 
costs a lot to make these, reprduce them and mail them. The result is very 
little net donation, and whn a few of you don't return the money, it erases the 
effect of about twenty who did.

        I used to sell these to pay for the editing of the seminar tapes, but 
they finally paid off, and this one was a low cost production using cuts from 
the other tapes and was shot by Bill Mee. We are going to make another section 
to go with it on the nitty gritty stuff, and include some more how to's, but
not 
until we get these other scooters done. Now we nedd to sell them to break even 
on the people who did not send the money back

       Incidentally, ther are 350 of these out there now. If an of you area 
horrifying strokes, and badly needed the tape, and I have had such situations 
occur, you need not send the money, as we all would like you to have it on us, 
in the interest of safer diving.

On Fri, 19 Jul 1996, John Morrison <bildebmo@so*.ne*> wrote:
>Dear Mr. Irvine:
>
>     I dive caves in the midwest with occasional trips to Florida. I have
>just recently subscribed to the cavers list and have seen mention of a video
>that you authored called "Doing It Right". As I try to keep up with the best
>methods and equipment configurations, I would like to obtain a copy.
>(Sometimes innovations take awhile to get here.) If you would send me
>information on getting a copy, I would appreciate it.
>
>     Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>
>
>Bill
>
>P.S. I tried your address that I saw on the list(gmiiii@in*.co*)
>twice         but it came back user unknown, so I hoped that I could reach
>you here.       Sorry everbody else.
>
>

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