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From: <m.withers@ge*.co*>
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 96 04:59:00 UTC 0000
To: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Great Lakes Death Info.
On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, rwright@is*.ne* wrote:
 >> Hello, Divers:

>She apparently lost her Regulator at about 60', was unable to find
 >her octopus, so her buddy attempted to give her his primary.  He then
 >began to panic because he couldn't find his octopus, and shot to the
 >surface.
 >

This one really struck a nerve.
         ~~~~~~
        [George, "doing it right" notwithstanding.... (I assume these
        people are making their first dives ever - how else could
        they be so inept?) I don't think hose stuffing was the problem;
        total ignorance, or sheer stupidity maybe.  My vote goes to the
        jerk who probably doesn't cover regulator recovery in a "learn
        to dive in a weekend" class session.  Even if the students
        skipped class, it's still incumbent upon the instructor to be
        sure his students know how to dive before he sets them loose.]


! ! ! ! ! ! Set flame on:

Couldn't FIND a regulator?!?!?!?  FIND A REG?????

What, did it grow fins and swim away????

Can't FIND a reg that's ATTACHED TO THE TANK, that can'tget more than one
arm's length away in any given direction?

Can't reach back to tank valve and find not one but probably *2* hoses to
follow down to the second stage?

Can't execute a simple arm sweep to recover the regs?  Can't roll over from
right to front to recover the regs?

EXCUSE ME?????  And you say not one, but TWO poor slobs had this problem?
 Whoever certified them should be shot! There is no excuse for not teaching
such a simple skill.  This may start a whole new flame war, but the next of
kin should be suing the instructor.


>This kind of accident should not be happening.  Why are people with
 >so little experience doing dives this deep, especially considering
 >the water temp was only 45-50.

My sentiments exactly.

Martha


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