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Date: Mon, 8 Jul 1996 21:28:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: rfarb <rfarb@na*.ne*>
To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@po*.wo*.at*.ne*>
cc: Dennis Pierce <dpierce@al*.ne*>, techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: Odyssey
ccr 500 is not MK 15. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. I'll 
believe the cis when I see it. Rod

On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, Tom Mount wrote:

> Well Dennis if all of the ccr 500 has the 3.5 mil hours then it has to be
> the mk15 and the it is suppossed to be a new unit. personally you take the
> proven old and I'll opt for the evolution of a better technology. better,
> more efficient electronics, better sensors, more dependabel hardware, I
> truly beleive a 90's technology beats a 70's technology in almost everything
> cars,boats, airplanes, dive equipment and especially in fully closed circuit
> units. 
> 
> That does mean i do not think the unit is excellent it just means that only
> closed minded person would assume modern technology with the advances made
> by growing from the short commings of old technology was not a step forward
> in safety and dependability. 
> 
> On the odessey it is an already proven concept as pointed out by Barrie
> except it has the advantage of being updated. Yes I agree it is prudent to
> have a po2 monitor and mind will.
> 
> tom
> At 07:33 AM 7/5/96 +0000, you wrote:
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 4 Jul 1996, Barrie Kovish wrote:
> >
> >> >> Dennis, do you have some specific unhappyness with the Odyssey or just 
> >> >> a general malaise about semiclosed circuit?
> >> >
> >> >semi closed units.
> >> 
> >> I would point out that, in theory, the Odyssey will have ~1/3 the 
> >> variation in FO2 that the Atlantis I has making it somewhat more
> >> diver friendly and less prone to those annoying spots of hypoxia.
> >
> >the key word here is "theory", yawnnnnn, sorry, but this is old stuff,
> >without a ppo2 indicator any unit is dangerous.. very dangerous. and the 
> >semiclosed makers know it and aren't talking about it.. can't imagine why,
> >i mean, this is (or should be) bigger than all of us put together..  but 
> >all they want to do is put units out there... even if they will kill
> >people.. sorry guys, but that's just what you've got... and even if you
> >don't hurt anyone.. you are still diving air or close to it.. 
> >
> >                       ...... what is the point, photographs.. hold your
> >breath.  free dive.. what ever, but if you're gonna sell something tell
> >the world what the hell you're  selling.. the siding closers are long
> >gone.
> >
> >dp
> >
> >ps  let's put all the units up against each other and run tests like i did
> >on the fienos.. that's the right way to do it...  i think some of makers 
> >would run.. sorta like the first forum meeting in key west three years
> >ago...  :-)
> >
> >
> >you can bet that when i get the 500's i will do just that, and i'll
> >borrow marty's 15.5, or marks, and i'll get the drager that a guy bought
> >last month and already wants to sell it, and rich, and any other unit i
> >can get my hands on... an run some real live tests.. and publish them..
> >(bet that scares the shit out some of the manufactures, oh my god, the
> >TRUTH!!). That's what we should have done a year ago.. but no one would
> >give up the units....now we know why.  :-)
> >
> >let's go back to that word "theory"... i will stand by the 3.5 million man
> >hours of diving on the ccr units...   good grief..  why work with theory
> >when lives are at stake...
> >
> >dp
> >
> >
> >
> >> 
> >> Barrie 
> >> 
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