Billy, not really a deep dive. It is a wreck, a new one (still had the paint on it) which we wanted to see. It is advertised as 240 feet deep, but it is 217 to the sand, and the wreck sits upright, making it a 170 foot dive, or less, a depth from which free ascent is possible, but when you have good buddies, no other contingency plan is necessary. The water is 100 foot vis, 84 degrees, and the wreck is free of cable, rope , etc. For that depth and the 15-20 minute bottom time it takes to look it over (only about 200 feet long), there is hardly any deco required, so no need to take deco gas or oxygen. If one were penetrating ( no reason - it was sunk intentionally and cleaned up beforehand and is an open freighter- all of the action is in the fish on the wreck and in seeing a perfect looking ship sitting on the sand). Billy, the dive took 43 cubic feet of gas, including deco to execute (twelve minute deco, eighteeen minute bottom time- tables from memory). Some of these guys used 250 cubic feet of gas and were in the water for two hours (more than 100 minutes of it deco with nitrox and oxygen), and then they were breathing oxygen on the boat. They had so much gear, and so horribly cluttered that they must have been struggling the whole dive, while we sailed around and had a lot of fun. Somebody out there is teaching tekkie for tekkie sake, fear and loathing, and other silliness. I saw some of the most dangerous gear rigs ever. If these guys had gotten hung up in that current, it would have taken a commercial diver to cut them loose. Bill Mee had a Beuchat computer we were testing with him, and it even cleared before we got out, but it is the kind you can set with a pc before the dive, so we set it to the "no weenies" mode, but it still told the tale - weenie dive. I saw improperly marked gas mixes, convoluted gas mixes ranging from 65% to 80% oxygen nitrox, doubles with nitrox stickers on them for a dive where the divers thought they were going to 240 ( I live here and can tell the depth by the position of the wreck) , hoses stuffed in weird places, some of the worst regulators ever made, funky pressure hoses, hoseless spg's and pressure guages, little colored nitrox regs with poodle jackets on them, like some Park Avenue fag would put on his dog, d-rings everywhere on the tanks, backup lights hanging off of tanks, most of which were on the whole dive, stage bottles clipped to the backplate, where you would be sure to drown if they got hung in the wreck, bondage wings that looked like they had 400 pounds of lift with double hoses, double wings, multiple inflators, Crockadile Dundee knives (in case their car breaks down in cracktown on the way home), plastic colored flippers of all varieties - very chic, and in general about 125 pounds of useless crap. Here is my point , Billy: these guys had not taken car of their most important peice of dive gear, and it used too much gas. The other gear was a waste of money and improperly deployed. The price of bondage wings, hoseless spg computer, and bullshit light alone is what one of my custom scooters costs. They all had the wrong regulators, for which they had paid a lot of money. Somebody showed them the wrong way to rig gear, and they were all diving for depths sake and tekiie sake only. One of the group had a pneumatic spear gun to shoot at 200 feet, like that would work. These guys all looked miserable , were sweating like pigs on the boat stuffed into their mouuntain of gear, and spent most of the dive hanging in the nasty green freshwater lens, while we cruised around, saw all kinds of cool things, decoed out at 30 feet in the blue water, and had a nice day in the sun. Billy, am I missing something in this sport, or is intitutionalized strokery a better way? I would love to see these guys in a cave dive - no wonder we have so much unexplored cave. On Sun, 7 Jul 1996, Billy Williams <bdi@ha*.co*.au*> wrote: >At 06:37 PM 6/07/1996 -0700, G. M. I. III wrote: >> >>Bill Mee and I went out on the local tek dive today >>(Reef Cat). >....cut.......... >>my single aluminum 80 (carried no deco gas and started >>with 3200 psi) >....cut.......... >>...every single person on the boat wearing doubles except >>Mike Tennant, who was diving with me and does it right, >>and Bill Mee, who was diving with me but had a 100 >>aluminum single. >....cut.......... > >Yes George, >For us people far, far away, can you post some more details >like was it a play deep dive or a deep deep dive? Mix or >air? bounce or square? What's the plan regarding backup gas? >Custom tables? > >Sorry this is all questions but it seems like another >revelation could be iminent... > >rgrds billyw > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > >
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