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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:50:23 -1000 (HST)
From: Richard Pyle <deepreef@bi*.bi*.Ha*.Or*>
To: John 015 <CC015012@BR*.br*.ed*>
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: Re: CCRs and the *right* computer

> Why do you use the word "chaotic" rather than "statistical" ?
> Statistical mechanics would tell you right away that the
> more N2 you dissolve into your tissue, the larger the number
> of possible semistable solutions (N2 in gas phase)
> you would see when you decompress.

Statistical analysis of DCS incidence would point you in the right 
directions for correlated (perhaps even causative) factors.  However, a 
statistical description of how the masses tend to get bent doesn't tell 
you anything about whether *you* are going to get bent after a given 
decompression profile.  I use the word "chaotic", because I believe that 
word describes well the nature of physical and biochemical processes taking 
place within our bodies during compression and decompression. In short, 
our ability to predice DCS in the masses can be achieved by statistical 
analysis, but our ability to predict DCS for a given individual on a 
given dive is severely obscured by the immensely complex nature of the 
ailment.

> It's a thermal process and can only be avoided if you
> freeze yourself down to 0'K.

I prefer to dive in waters warm enough that I only need a T-shirt and 
swim suit.

> I have yet to see the nitty gritty of the current day
> bubble models so I don't know how to cast this in the
> language of these models.  I imagine trouble can occur
> if bubbles of no great significance in themselves
> were to say combine or you have no upper bound on the
> largest bubble that can exist at any one given time
> in your body during the decompression part of the dive.

Even the bubble models are just models - they don't take into 
consideration platelt abundance and other biochemical factors.  I preach 
the bubble models only because the gross nature of the decompression 
profiles they recommend more closely match my own personal empiracle 
observations.

> In summary,  I don't think any model, ever, can bring you closer to
> a risk free dive than telling you something about the *probability*
> of a hit for a given profile.

I think some models will bring us closer than others.  But don't make the
mistake of assuming probabilities of DCS for masses will apply with any
whiff of reality to probabilities of DCS for an individual.

I am reminded of a funny story.  My wife (5'7", 110 lbs, built like a 
rock climber - she is a rock climber) was discussing diving with a 
5'9", 250-lb, built-like-a-couch-potato dive instructor. The instructor 
said to my wife, "You are more likely to get bent than I am because you 
are a woman, and women are statistically more likely to get bent than 
men." My wife asked why women are more likely to get bent than men, and 
the instructor replied, "Because statistically, women have more body fat."

Am I making my point here?

Aloha,
Rich

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