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Rod, Getting a bit sensative? > Rich, another "real thing", in addition to the CCR155- the CCR500 is in > production now, so getting the real thing will be no problem. Since the > Cis Lunar will not be entering the marketplace as a commercial venture- > all deposits have been returned I am told- You were told wrong. The only deposits that were returned were to people who put down money in the UK. They still have my deposit, and many others. My last email from Bill Stone about progress on the Mk5 was 37 minutes ago. Yesterday morning I spent an hour on the phone with Richard Nordstrom. All lights are green with Cis-Lunar, and they won't be will be building, training, and selling this Fall. You are right; the Mk4 (prototype) which I have been using for the past two years is a museum piece (a "work of art" might be a better description). When you get a chance to dive with the Mk5 (maybe next summer Kevin, McKenney, you and I can get together?), you will want one too. > it is clear that the value of > your two units should increase as museum pieces. They are not my units - they belong to Cis-Lunar. Like I said, I agree they are Museum pieces, and a Museum is where they belong. > In retrospect, having > two units sent to you was a good move since spare parts are likely to be > limited. Non-existant for the Mk4 - there were nine built; there will never be another built. The Mk5 is the future, and it is a much better machine. > The real test of whether the Cis-Lumar has whithered on the vine > as a commercial reality will be your response to this post. If your > response contains phrases like "yes, the deposits have been returned, but > Cis-Lunar now has financing" Only a few people who put their deposits in the UK have had them returned. > or "I've been told by Bill that they will be > in production in (date)" September 1996. > or "I'm not going to say any more about when the > unit will be available" Nope - I've already said it. > or "they are working on the Mark (V, VI, VII) and > I am told that it will be in production by (date) They call it the "MK-5P", and as I already said, September 1996. >, or "cut me some slack, > time will tell", I don't need any slack - my affiliation with them is almost exactly the same as your affiliation with BioMarine (as far as I understand your affiliation with BioMarine); that is, I have absolutely no financial involvement, nor official position with them whatsoever. I've merely used their rebreather for two years, have given them some suggestions for improvement, and wish them the best of luck as a company because they are my friends and because I want them to survive as a company. It's my understanding that this describes exactly your relationship with BioMarine. You and I are just users; we provide information when it is available because we are in contact with the respective companies, and we stamp out bullshit when it starts to flood the list. > then Cis-Lunar has truly reached the level of > astrovaporware. My friend on Maui sent in his deposit for a BioMarine something like 8 months ago. He was just rained recently. He had to return his unit because it was delivered with no power switch and incorect gas plumbing. I don't know if he even has it back yet. That sounds like astrovaporware to me. > I will say, in all fairness to you, that I have enjoyed > the many safety features and ease of operation of diving the unit on > techdiver- to date there have been no accidents with the unit on here. Likewise for you and the stiched together bailout bottles, Dive Tracker, etc. > I > did receive a press report about a merger between Cis Lunar and Oddessey > to produce the Cisoddest Lunacy. Tell me that was just a joke. I'd like to see that one - sounds like it must have been pretty funny. Rich P.S. I thought my message to Kevin (below) was intended to be private, but apparently it was forwarded to Techdiver. Did you forward it, or was it my goof? > On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Richard Pyle wrote: > > > > > Kevin, > > > > > Once in the water, you have to remember that these units are NOT like > > > scuba tanks (i.e. nice and round) - they are big and square and FLAT on the > > > back. This might sound like a moot (notice I got the word right) point, > > > until you are in a current. You've now got a friggin sail on your back > > > that the current just loves to plane off of. Now concentrate on keeping > > > close to the anchor line, while making sure you watch no less than 4 > > > gauges/displays (5 if you count a dive computer in there) while > > > decompressing - all of a sudden, open circuit starts to look quaint... > > > > > > When you look at it that way, rebreathers start to lose some of their > > > romance. > > > > Sell that antiquated contraption and buy the real thing - it will bring > > the romance back to rebreather diving - even more than heliox does - > > I promise! ;-) > > > > Rich > > > > -- > > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. > > Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. > > >
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