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George Facts on Jim's dive HE WAS NOT A STUDENT IN A DIVE COURSE OF ANY KIND AT THE TIME OF THE ACCIDENT HE WAS already A CERTIFIED NACD CAVE DIVER HE WAS A CERTIFIED BASIC NITROX DIVER THE DIVERS STAGED ON AIR TO HILL 400 THEN SWITCHED TO EAN 40 OR 39 ACCORDING TO WHICH OF THE ANALYZERS YOU ACCEPT. THEY THEN SWIM TO THE DOUBLE DOMES MOST OF THE AREA IS IN THE 80 AND 90 TO MID 90 FOOT DEPTHS A SHORT AMOUNT GOES TO 100 TO 101 FEET AS YOU KNOW IN THIS PASSAGE. SO THE MAJORITY OF THE DIVE WAS AT PO2'S IN THE 1.3+ TO 1,41 OR 2 AREA WITH SPIKE TO 1.59 IF HE HIT THE DEEPEST POINT.(freshwater) 100 feet 1.59. No I do not and IANTD does not think that is a safe mix for a dive and hopefully no one does that anymore the last time I saw that high a mix in the eye was you about three or four years back. To my knowledge you discontinued that practice along with deep air at the same time. No one is defending the dive or the po2 just setting the record straight. I do not think and IANTD states working dives/technical dives the highest operational po2 is 1.4 ata. The rest of this is between you and whoever else, but do not mislead people by stating someone is in a training course when in fact that is untrue. When you make statements like this many people accept it as fact, please be careful in what you state and be sure it is true, Nor are you proper by stating it is a recommended dive by the training agency. I just verified the certifications prior to responding to this. The point I made in the earlier post was he had a multiple of problems a high spike in po2 (not considered by most at that time (including you then) to be high and an overdose of sudafed which in itself can cause the same reactions as an o2 hit dig out your PDR. Tom At 11:52 AM 6/13/96 +0000, you wrote: >Rod Farb sez: "A few dead divers is a drop in >the bucket in the overall scheme of things. Rod > > Rod, you are right about this - not that many people have been killed >emulating Bret, and I for one have gotten some great free gear from dead guys >who do what these agencies tell them. I got Jim Fernandez's tanks after he got >killed at Ginnie diving 40% nitrox. I can thank the certifying agency for that >(he was doing a combo nitrox and cave training).Unfortunately, I had to sell >them for next to nothing, as the poor bastard not only followed these strokes to >his death, but he bought the wrong crap at their recommendation. I tried to use >these tanks as stage bottles, but they were hopeless (genisis 120's). I could >have gotten Nick's gear - he had a nice faber 95 that I could have used for an >oxygen bottle, and a poseiden first stage, but I did not leave enough mix in my >tanks to get down to where he was trying to set a depth record on air (Kincaid >and I had just done a mix swim dive, and were too low in our al 80's to do a 450 >bounce cleanly). > > Besides, it is much more macho to do things the wrong way. A tough guy like >Bret or the others can handle more nacotic mixes and higher ppo2 than a weenie >like me, or certainly the newer people. Just look at all of the cave they have >explored this way and all of the great things they do. These guys have great >breathing rates too, they can beat most students, while maintaining their status >as beached whales - no need to set a good example there either. > > Yeah, Pete Hazeltine if full of shit - let 'em pay their money and take >their chances. Get one of those swiming pool rebreathers and do some metalbolic >roulette, and then go have a deep air dive - you don't have a hair on your ass >if you can't take that. > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. >
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