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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:35:32 -0700
From: George Irvine <gmiiii@in*.co*>
Subject: Re: o2 paradox
To: john thornton <johnpt@jo*.de*.co*.uk*>
Cc: techdiver <techdiver@terra.net>

  What area are you looking for info on? We are always glad to discuss this in 
detail. Is it the cave part or the diving part, or both? I can tell you in 
general that we seem to have hit upon some pretty good ways to get it done 
without incident, lately. Hopefullly this is our fault and not just our good 
luck. 

  Give me a place to start.

  In general, we have a very long cave sytem, the longest underwater in this 
country, and it has finally cleared to where we can dive other than the spring 
portions, where we have been practicing for the last two years, although this
is 
some really great diving, and we have found some very long deep stuff. The
group 
has been at it for several more, back when the whole thing was clear.

  As it first cleared, we were able to connect to another system that had
eluded 
us due to extreme distances between the two, and bad vis. We got that, and then 
we extended the bottom of the system back up to the north by a few thousand
feet 
from Wakulla's main conduit tunnel. Now we will go from the last sinkhole above 
that downstream , while working upstream Wakulla. Anytime the rains black it 
out, we go back to the spring stuff (we know the caves well enough to get 
through the bad stuff to the spring tunnels

  The problem in the downstream is the howling current and the bad vis, both of 
which will improve (they are deep , also, 285 on the ceiling). The upstream 
Wakulla presents a problem due to bad vis as well the further upstream we get, 
so it is hard to find the right way, so we are just trying every tunnel 
systematicly.

  At the same time, we will be working north from the new connection and
between 
the two from new sinks we have found. We aso have several other new permitted 
sites coming on stram now that we will be woking in the same karst valley

  Our real claim to fame is aggressive teamwork and simplistic gear. All of our 
stuff is really quite simple, like the scooters, lights, rig, and techniques, 
and realies heavily on diver skill and training. We use multiple scooters, and 
carry many bottles quite efficiently. Nearly all of our divers can perform all 
of the dives, so we can send several layers of teams extreme distances without 
problem. This is a many as 18 diffeent people, quite an accomplishment at this 
level of diving (to have so many good ones). We are alsways trying to train 
more, and have a constant supply of great divers coming along, as well as 
scientists in grad school, who are anxious to work with us. This combintion 
gives us the longevity and continuity that the permit givers like to see, so we 
have obtained the most long term access ever achieved here in Florida - 5 year 
permits inthe National Forest, and open ended at the various parks .

  We have done thousands of man hours of extreme exposures without
decompression 
incident, as well as repetitive exptreme exposures without problem. We have
gone 
five years without a scooter failure in the caves (they have broken out of the 
water, however, or seals have leaked, but never failed). We haven't killed 
anybody in years, and realy our only screwup in that regard was letting people 
dive who wanted to but shouldn't have.

  Anything specific, let me know
 
On Sat, 8 Jun 1996, john thornton <johnpt@jo*.de*.co*.uk*> wrote:
>>
>>
>George
>Nice to cross swords with you, its good to see a real fish that takes
>bait.
>On a slightly more serious note how about sending me some more detail of
>what you are doing, some of us over here are curious for more info.
>
>Have you been georged today?
>-- 
>john thornton
>
>

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