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At 12:27 AM 29/05/1996 EDT, J. SILVERSTEIN wrote in defense
of advertising his mag on these lists:
> we consider it a public service to let our
> friends know what stories we've been covering.
I am not your friend.
> Those who read SUB AQUA know that
> we're no more self-promoting than the next guy,
The next guy doesn't advertise here, you do.
> and we have the quality of
> material to justify a loyal following of the inner circle.
That bit just proves journalists are lousy copywriters.
> I understand and apologize for the annoyance
> some folks feel about getting just one too many messages
> in their mailboxes.
Joel, you know, and I know it isn't just one message. Who
do you think you're kidding? And if you could understand,
and are sincere, why keep doing it?
> If you don't like the fact that I'm enthusiastic about
> SUB AQUA, tough.
Didn't you just apologise for being an arsehole?
> the best magazine of its kind, and it's a ton of work
> and sacrifice to put it out consistently.
Joel, we've all got jobs. If it's too hard, do something else.
> Here's the deal. If a majority of list members prefer
> that SUB AQUA not list
> its table of contents here as a service, then we won't.
Generous of you to offer a deal. But it isn't just
'a table of contents as a service', it's advertising to make
money. And don't start whining again about not making enough.
> But I didn't think
> you'd want AOL guys to hear about anything before you did.
Who gives a toss? How old are you?
> We enjoy participating in this list and publish
> SUB AQUA because we love diving.
> The more people who know about it, we believe,
> the better for diving at large.
Joel, don't insult me by expecting me to believe it's
all in some noble cause and it's really 'for my own good.'
In this third world country you'd get a smack for that.
You haven't once had the honesty to acknowledge that you
are advertising your mag on these lists, and you're main
reason for doing this is to make money. I don't mind you
advertising. But I object to your duplicity.
By all means, 'publish the occasional table of contents'.
But judging by the evidence, you're a complete humbug.
> Sincerely,
Doubt it.
billyw
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