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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:42:05 -0700
To: ba_diving@li*.be*.co*, SCUBA-L@BR*.BR*.ED*,
From: norcadiver@so*.ne* (Rocky Daniels)
Subject: FWD: I respond for SOS
>From: subocean@co*.ne*
>Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 18:50:30 -0500
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>To: norcadiver@so*.ne*
>Subject: I respond for SOS
>X-UIDL: 06e838d7fb1552d97519ef6a195cf5d9
>
>        I thank you all for every response, not only for the donations, but
>expecially for the negative comments. The main thing that I've learned from
>this dialogue is that SOS doesn't have complete enough information out
>there. For that, I apolozise. It is also clear that many people are quite
>willing to express their opinions about the SOS efforts with only the
>slightest idea of our programs, leaving much to their imaginations. As for
>dealing with reality, I thank Tom Mount, a man who's seen these problems
>first hand. He offered some very astute and compassionate views, as might be
>expected from an industry leader. Yes, these indigenous peoples are pawns
>with very limited moves, trapped in a brutal corporate game of greed that
>thrives on viewer apathy. For the confirmed 'nay sayers', I have only
>persuation; and short time to wield it. There are many positive things yet
>to do, but now I think that responses to main themes would be productive.
>Esat Etikkan:
>        True, there is much exploitation in our world, but I don't see that
>as a reason to give up trying to help as we can. The exploitation I oppose
>is new, unique in history, unaddressed until now. I think that death and
>paralysis are unusually severe ends to exploitation. My area of expertise is
>diving safety. I have no historical examples to follow. I don't have a plan
>for every third world problem, but I do have a plan for this one.
>        Here I list your four solutions with my comments:
>1) Protection, via legislation, from the tyranny of the 'lobster lords'.
>        answer: I assume you mean legislatiion by third world governments.
>Of course the tyrannical 'lobster lords' are the government in many cases;
>in others, they own the government. At any rate, laws, if there are any, are
>never enforced where indigenous minorities are involved. None the less, I
>hope that world opinion will nudge these governments into a more humane
>stance. I also hope that our nation will consider import regulations that
>respond to different levels of exploitation; but hope is all I can do
>because I am not, nor would like to be, a politician of an overlord of a
>third world nation.
>2) Training in safe diving techniques.
>        answer: I wish that first world solutions would work in these cases,
>but diving education alone is not the answer. Yes, for three years I've
>supported ths Moravian Missions diving school (specifically, I've both
>mailed and carried down donated PADI Spanish dive manuals and have supported
>that school editorially in my magazine,'THE UNIVERSAL DIVER') adeptly run by
>Bob Armington. He's trained over 500 divers of the 9,000 in that region, a
>collosal feat that deserves the highest praise. His work is a vital part of
>the complex gearwork, of which SOS is a part. Unfornately, divers without
>watches, depth or pressure gauges can't follow tables. Moreover, this system
>is based on production...the divers get paid by the pound of caught lobster.
>In effect, the divers are rewarded for breaking the rules. Still, I hope
>that the boat owners will realize that it's in their best interests to limit
>diving, thus preserving both the crew's health and protecting the resource.
>I propose that a good first step would be to outlaw aluminum 80's,
>restricting the men to 72's at lower pressure and volume.
>3) Training in adequate first aid techniques.
>        answer: I think this sounds like the bandaid cure you referred to.
>First aid my ass. I'm talking full blown hyperbaric medical treatment with
>some of the best doctors in the world. I want to train lead divers and
>captains in emergency 'in-water O2. I believe that this inexpensive and
>immediate treatment is a key to saving many lives around the world, not only
>for diving fisheries, but also for remote sport diving locations. SOS has a
>training video that awaits editing.
>Will the fisheries divers dive again after such a close call? That's their
>choice, but if they choose to retire, as some will, they hopefully will be
>able to walk and remain productive in some other capacity. By the way, the
>SOS chamber we want to make operational is 24 hrs. closer to the lobster
>fields than the 'available' chamber you refer to. As you must know, minutes
>are nerve tissue.
>3) Development of alternate resources for exploitation.
>        answer: Good idea, but not my field of expertise. What do you
>suggest? There are similar diving problems all over the world, problems for
>which SOS is chartered and equipped to address. There are many other
>agencies that deal with a number of social problems, and I wish them well.
>SOS will help where it can. SOS is planning to offer Continuing Medical
>Education Credits at our chambers and combine that with eco/adventure tours,
>but I hope for something better than a 'bell boy' solution. In Nicaragua,
>the Dutch have funded numerous coastal development programs, including
>aqua-culture. I am in touch with Joe Ryan, a marine biologist working in
>that arena. SOS has applied to be a part of the overall program and stands
>ready to help.
>        Your comment of this being a 'sentimental' issue sounds like a nazi
>apologist. Your timid insinuation that I, as president of SOS, don't have
>the strong support of the SOS board members is an improper area for your
>inquiries and doesn't deserve an answer.
>        I am quite proud of our 'grandiose' move, as you call it, assuming
>that you are referring to our efforts at providing emergency medical care
>for unfortunate divers. The more grandiose, the better. Discovery is
>covering the marathon and it will be a new category Guinness record. Much
>more PR is happening, without apologies.  Izdepski
>
>Scott:
>        In fact this does have a lot to do with technical diving, as it does
>with all diving. SOS has a unique opportunity to render humanitarian aid
>while conducting research in the very worst cases of decompression disease.
>Are shallow treatments more or less effective in treating DCS than deeper
>ones? Could we develope new tables? How can some Miskito divers last for
>years in this industry with few ill effects? Aggressive research in this
>field of most extreme diving could provide a cornucopia of hyperbaric
>knowledge, as I hope it will, thus benefitting all divers.
>
>Judian Bruk: 
>        Distant, land based chambers will do nothing to allow greater acess
>to lobster stocks. You assume that belated chamber treatments will restore a
>divers health. The sad fact is that there are many paralyzed divers who have
>visited chambers, with no beneficial results. I hope that our chamber will
>be close enough to restore a mans legs well enough that he can at least limp
>around and remain productive. I wish that I could offer a complete cure in
>all cases, but that is impossible.  Izdepski
>
>Jack Edelstein, Ph.D.
>        There is a deeper underlying assumption than that of a chamber
>helping these communities. It is that if you do good things for people, good
>things happen. I can never prove this, but I believe it. You either do or
>you don't, and that's your concern, not mine.
>        As for supporting an operational chamber...good question, and we
>have an example.
>        The SOS chamber that Dr. Tom Millington brought to Ahuas is
>operating now, and has been for several years. Tom trained the Moravian
>Mission doctors and they manage the chamber. The boat captains pay for the
>patients and that covers operating expences. It works. Once a chamber is up
>and running, the fishing communities will support it.  Izdepski
>
>        The purpose of our underwater marathon is to attract publicity for
>these problems, lift awareness and raise funds to buy a diesel engine to
>make our chamber operational at the closest point of land to the lobster
>fields. I am interested in constructive dialogue, but I am mostly interested
>in getting the chamber going. Yes, there will be mistakes, but I'm not
>afraid to learn from them.
>        I hope that the diving community will support SOS to the point where
>we can demonstrate exactly what we can do in an empty field. We'll do our
>best to deserve your trust. We can discuss all the fine points of third
>world assistance later, after we have a record to either praise or
>criticize. Right now we've got an international diving crisis on our hands;
>a human rights issue that no one else has ever cared enough to do anything
>about.  Bob Izdepski 
>
>
>

Rocky Daniels

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