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To: pweissma@le*.co*
To: techdiver@opal.com
Subject: Re: DCI during deco
From: <JOHNCREA@de*.co*>
Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 07:11:12 -0400 (EDT)
Philip,

As to your question about DCI developing/occurring during decompression-

This is fairly easy to discuss if the subject is in a chamber, but a real
bear if the subject is in the water.  Major concerns include:  
  1)At what depth did the symptoms occur?  
  2)Are these symptoms occurring during a normal decompression scenario,
or are they occuring during a dive with violations of the table/computer/
or during omitted decompression procedure?
  3)What kind of symptoms (pain only vs. more severe symptoms, and if more
severe, how severe)? 
  4)Water temperature and thermal protection status of the diver. 
  5)Is a full facemask being used or available?  
  6)Is oxygen enriched breathing mixtures available to the diver?  If so,
then how much?
  7)Where does the diver stand as to OTU exposure and CNS toxicity dosage?  
  8)Is surface support crew available, or is it just the diver and his buddy
(if he has one)?
  9)Just how close is the nearest chamber?

If the symptoms occur shallower than 30ft, I think I would consider the
Australian inwater recompression plan (provided that I had full face mask,
adequate oxygen supplies and adequate thermal protection).  Of course, the
question comes up of what to do when the 20 and 10ft stop times exceeds the
time required to complete the Australian inwater plan?  However, this kind of
dive would probably already have the diver with significant OTU exposure, and
with a CNS "clock" that is near or will exceed 100% during this scenario.

If the symptoms occur deeper than 30ft, then the problem is one of -
  1)Do we go deeper to relieve the symptoms (and what do we do if the
symptoms do NOT abate)?  If we go deeper and get relief, now how do
we get to the surface.  We obviously cannot go back into the dive tables
after this incident, so what do we do?  Again, remoteness from a chamber
might swing the decision towards trying to treat in the water, but
again we have to consider gas supplies, thermal considerations, OTU and
CNS dosages, the availability of full facemask, etc.  

The bottom line is that trying to treat while inwater is probably an
alternative if the symptoms are minor (ie, pain only, no progression
to CNS or pulmonary symptoms), but when the symptoms are minor is not
the situation where we are really concerned with treatment in water.  The
severe cases in remote locations are the ones that we would prefer to 
treat in water, and are the ones that probably do not lend themselves
to being treated due to the patient.

I know that this has not really shed any more light on this subject, but
am just discussing this off the cuff (so to speak).

Am looking forward to hearing other input on this subject (are you listening
Rich??).

John Crea
Submariner Research, Ltd.
(johncrea@de*.co*) 

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