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Subject: Re: liftbag deployment
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 96 13:54:23 -0700
From: Kevin <kevink@ap*.co*>
To: "Dave Mabry" <dmabry@mi*.co*>
cc: <Techdiver@terra.net>
>> 1) When adding air to a lift bag, I add enough air so that it's only a
>> couple of pounds/kilos positive.  Assuming that I send it up from, say,
>> 132 feet, with 1 kilo positive, it will hit the surface at 5 kilos
>> positive (12 pounds positive).  I CAN hold position against 5 kilos
>> positive (although I'll be working like a banshee).
>
>I'm sure I won't be the only one to jump on this one.  The 1 kilo positive 
>bag will 
>be MUCH more positive than 5 kilos unless it is only displacing 1 kilo of 
>water to 
>start with (at 132 feet).
>

eeeyaahhhh!  When I was writing that particular comment, I was thinking 
about lift bags deployed for decompression hang purposes, not for lifting 
artifacts.  Kind of tunnel-visioned there for a while.

Dave is quite right about the lift bag being far more than 5 kilos 
positive - it will be 5 times the starting buoyancy.  Since I was only 
considering a bag sent up for deco hanging, it would only start at 1 kilo 
positive.  If you hang something something off it (say a 50 pound 
artifact), then it will end up (assuming no air escaping) at 205 pounds 
positive at the surface (assuming no air venting) - a bit more difficult 
to hang onto than I originally wrote...

::sigh:: that sort of tunnel-visioned thinking (on my part) can REALLY 
ruin a diver's day.
On the other hand, though, why are you releasing bags from very deep?  
You SHOULD be maintaining near-neutral buoyancy on the bag by swimming it 
up and venting the air as you ascend.  Of course, releasing it from 20 
feet so that you can do a hang gives you a buoynacy value of 3/2 the 20 
foot buoyancy of the bag - generally more than I want to restrain.

          -- Kevin --




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