Sean, who certified you in trimix without doing a complete course. Skills etc bottom time requitements and a complete overview of at least 4 suitable meands of equipment config. I sure hope it was not an IANTD instructor and if it was I sure would like to know who. On maniflods, while I personally prefer the double o ring (Diverite,Sea elites) Many knowlegegable and accomplished tech divers / instructors such as Billy Deans prefer the OMS and they do so because it has provided them with good service. In fact privately billy and I debate the merits of each. A training course is responsible to introduce you to safe techniques, enviromenal consideration and selection of appropriate equipment. A training course can only provide a foundation for you to develop from as even with IANTD's ofeten criticed requirements of bottom time minimums and stress management drills we can only lay a foundation. From the mix course you describe someone was negilent and did not provide you with a sound foundation. Hopefully JJ corrected that for you. Please, if your mix course was with an IANTD instructor provide me with their name we will take corrective action if the standards were not met or exceeded. Tom mount You wrote: > >Regarding George's post about diving being akin to witchcraft, the >reason that poor equipment and procedures are so often pushed on this >list is lack of education. Diving is unlike many other activities, in >that the training agencies themselves ar not the epitome of the >education process. Getting a c-card that indicates that you have >passed a specific course does not necessarily indicate that you know >what you are doing. Rather, the courses provide a starting off point >to continue the dive education and gain knowledge through diving. In >my own case, I was lectured on some simple math, and got a card that >enabled me to get trimix fills. Big deal. Was I a better diver? Of >course not. It took the experience gained through doing the dives to >get to a level where I'm comfortable with what I'm doing, and not being >a stroke (thanks go out to everyone on this list whom I have learned >from). People who DO dive will learn the idiosyncracies of different >types of gear, how to rig it, etc. I think that the requirements for >attaining certifications in various areas of diving should be raised, >but material that can be taught in the classroom will never approach >the knowledge that can be gained through experience. Learning from >others is a big part of this process, and is something that is severely >lacking in the system. George's vids, for example, would be >tremendously valuable in a course situation. JJ already recommends >that his students see the vid and come properly set up, so he can focus >on more important matters. It is exactly this type of information that >needs to be passed on to newbies, so that we have a hope of decreasing >the death to dive ratio. The courses also don't teach some of the >practical aspects of diving, due to ignorance. Why the double-barreled >o-ring manifolds are better, etc.. is useful stuff. Why then, do I >have to find out about it on techdiver, AFTER I've just spent god knows >what on new gear? People who dive and "do it right" need to convince >the training agencies to stop drilling bullshit into the students' >heads. Proper equipment choice needs to be thoroughly covered in the >courses, and instead of complaining about every stupid bit of >misinformation in the diving community, we should take some initiative >to prevent it. > >Just my $0.02 ($0.0154 US) > >-Sean > > >This Message Was Sent With An UNREGISTERED Version Of PMMail. >Please Encourage Its Author To Register Their Copy Of PMMail. >For More Information About PMMail And SouthSide Software's Other >Products, Contact http://www.southsoft.com. > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@terra.net'. >Send subscription/archive requests to `techdiver-request@terra.net'. >
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