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From: Rodney Nairne <troppo@br*.DI*.oz*.au*>
Subject: Re: DR.X safety factor Summary
To: diethard@F1*.te*.ch* (Diethard Wagner - Telekurs Finanz AG - FLCQ)
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 21:59:45 +1000 (EST)
Cc: techdiver@terra.net
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> Sheck used a 20% safety factor unless diving deeper than 300 feet he 
> used o% on thise dives and if the dive was longer than 40 minutes he 
> used 0%.
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> 
> I use a 20% safety factor with Doctor X as I know I don't have a PFO.
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> 
> I use DRX a couple of times a week on trimix dives and also on air and nitrox
> dives. I am a woman and have a problem with skin bends so I do a lot of gas
> changes and this minimizes the problem. I use the program with a 50% safety
> factor. My husband uses it with a 15% safety factor. (he has a lot less fat
> content to his body than I do!!)
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> 
> In reply to your request i use about 20% safety factor for 'normal' use. I 
> think that Sheck may have been hedging his liability bets in the US because
of 
> the risk of getting sued. 
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> DRX is a piece of crap for trimix dives.
> 100% safety gives 100 for helium but 0 for
> nitrogen. 
> Sheck was clearly more concerned with the helium,
> but helium is the diver freindly gas, not nitrogen.
> Buy/use another program.
> I know of one diver who used 130%, with air/02
> deco, and he was so long on the deep air stops
> he got a nitrogen bend on a trimix dive.
> And another who used 30% safety on a nitrox dive,
> he did not realise 30% is a straight buhlmann
> for a nitrox dive, and got bent too.
> 
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> We work on real time dive jobs using Dr. Ex.  Our base of standard tables is
the
> work done for our group  done in 1991 by Dr.
> Bill Hamilton.  Dr. Ex parallel's these tables with a 10% safety factor.
> Interestingly enough, I had a conversation with Sheck before his accident and
he
> told me this is what he used.
> 
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The general practice seems to be to use between 10 and 30%
"safety" when using DRX.

I assume people realise that when used for air or nitrox dives,
anything between 0 and 100% safety gives 0% safety, or a straight
buhlmann.

There is no safety for nitrogen until the safty factor
is above 100% .

Even if you use trimix, the nitrogen safety does not cut in
until you exeed 100% .

EG 130% safety, trimix: 30% nitrogen, 130% helium.
   90% safety,  trimix:  0% nitrogen,  90% helium.
   90% safety,   air:  0% safety.

Rod.

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