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To: <HeyyDude@ao*.co*>, techdiver@terra.net
From: cwsmitka@um*.ed* (Curt Smitka)
Subject: Re: Full face masks
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 16:23:09 -0500
The AGA FFM can be modified to handle two independent second stages
elimenating the need to switch masks when you have a regulator failure.
The modifications require you to make or purchase a custom mounting block,
the best Iv'e seen is made by Greg Zambeck and incorporates two second
stages, communications, and hydration ports.
Curt

At 2:50 PM 3/2/96, <HeyyDude@ao*.co*> wrote:

 * I'm sooooo glad to be able to talk a little about diving...
 *
 * Andy,
 *
 * I've been using the AGA mask for about a year now - the real concern most
 * divers who have even more experience with them than I do express is that if
 * you have a second stage failure - I mean TOTAL failure - no air coming outta
 * it - you have to bail out of the entire mask, and take your octo in your
 * mouth without protection for your eyes (basic OW scuba class).
 *
 * I'm told (since this has never happened to me) that should you need to do
 * this in very cold water, it can create a kind of shock to your system that
 * makes you inhale, thereby causing you mongo problems.
 *
 * I developed a sort of backup system for this when I was wreck diving in the
 * South Pacific - It is simple, but since it is my own invention, and I'm not
 * "Mr. Joe Diver" or even remotely related to Mike Nelson - use it at your own
 * peril:  I attached a second hose to my LP line, and on the end connected one
 * of those "air-blower" attachments (for cleaning photo gear, etc.).  Should I
 * have a prob with the second stage, I practiced slipping the little rubber
 * tube into my mask, and blowing air periodically.  This would allow you get
 * the hell out of whatever situation you were in, without requiring you to bail
 * on your FFM.
 *
 * Now there are a lot of people who would screech at this, but it was the
 * simplest, quickest approach I could see to a near impossible failure of the
 * second stage (more than likely, the second stage would fail in a free-flow
 * manner, which would just puff your face up with a lot of air - for those of
 * you who wear FFM's try it sometime - it's kinda cool to bug your eyes
 * out...).
 *
 * Of course, the ultimate is to have some kind of switching block on your mask
 * to switch to a back up second stage, but so far I've only seen that on FFM's
 * designed for rebreathers.
 *
 * As for CO2 buildup - the AGA has a "oral/nasal" isolator cup that keeps the
 * CO2 buildup to a minimum.  Since I was appearing on camera in my latest film,
 * I took mine out so the audience could see more of my beautiful mug.  I
 * experienced only one problem that I attribute to excess CO2 - on an 85 minute
 * dive to 55 feet (on a sunken airplane) - I was breathing pretty shallow, I
 * guess (BTW- I had stopped smoking, and it was AMAZING how much my gas
 * consumption improved) - anyway, I got one MONSTER headache by the end of that
 * dive.
 *
 * Later, I took the mask down to about 150' and experienced no problems like
 * that one dive.  It is MUCH SAFER and RECOMMENDED that you DO NOT do what I
 * did - and if you don't have to appear on camera, then there is no reason for
 * you to do this.
 *
 * Anyway - I'm glad if this info helps you.
 *
 * Later.
 *
 * Kevin.
 * HeyyDude
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