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Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 19:02:33 EST
From: John 015 <CC015012@BR*.br*.ed*>
Subject: Re: gas exchange rates as they effect nitrogen sat
To: techdiver@terra.net
>Posted on 2 Mar 1996 at 12:16:31 by Dan Volker

>The concept is, since gas exchange rates vary enormously between ultra fit
>endurance athlete types, normals, and sedentary persons, ingassing and out
>gassing CAN NOT BE PREDICTED ACCURATELY FOR ALL TYPES.


I'd like to be the devils advocate here.

If a sedetary person is well described as far as DCI is
concerned by say a 16 comparment model then it doesn't seem to
matter just how much body mass is in each compartment.

If you through training for max VO2 can redistribute your
mass (by having little mass in the compartment that models fat
say, and by forcing a large fraction of your muscles into a faster
compartment) you don't seem to have gained as far as DCI is
concerned (in the compartment model) unless you can outright
eliminate compartments which seems mighty hard considering
8% bodyfat is low and there is a slew of muscles not used
in bycycling.



It seems we still need to prove that the increase in
vascular surface area (capillaries) translates into a higher
bulk diffusion rate.  The effect could be small but I'd guess
that depends on mean distance to the nearest capillary in
sedetary and active tissue along with probably a slew of other
parameters I'm ignorant of.


>..offgassing rates are less tied to straight blood flow and gradient than
>is the ingassing rate.

Has this been proven ?  If yes, I'm forced to agree with your
viewpoints somewhat.

If the effect is present it seems to me that the muscular tissue
groups are those affected the most.  If these tissues are not
the ones limiting the dive (I'm mixing up tissue and compartment
here for the sake of brevity) it might not have major importance
on *this* particular profile.


>This same reasoning would predict that in a recreational profile, say 60ft
>for 55min, the unfit diver with poor gas exchange would be less at risk in a
>no -stop ascent to the surface, than would the more heavily saturated fit
>diver....But if both performed 10 minute safety stops, there is no doubt
>that the fit diver would surface with far less nitrogen loading than the
>unfit diver, and we all know EVERYONE should always do a safety stop, anyway.

I don't like this.  *If* your tissue is approximately behaving
like a compartment then both the fit and unfit diver probably
have some tissue in all compartments.  Granted you have more
tissue in the faster compartments and thus more total N2 in
your body but this is a separate issue from tissue saturation
levels.

I'm personally unware of any attempts at linking the total
amount of N2 to DCI risk barring what I've read in your posting.

I do realize that differences in the rate of offgassing
and ongassing probably could be turned into a form of link
between the two.

john

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