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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 1996 20:09:06 -0600
From: Robert Crumley <rcrumley@pe*.td*.co*>
Organization: YMCA Scuba, PADI, NSS
To: techdiver@terra.net
Subject: RE: Enough is Enough
Carl Heinzl wrote:
>
> There are 321 people on cavers, I'm sure we're ALL tired of hearing
> about PGP, computer security, etc.
>
> The best of the best can be cracked, this has been demonstrated time
> and time again but, be that as it may, this is a DIVING mailing list,
> more specifically about CAVE diving.  I don't have the time right now
> to deal with security issues on cavers...  Someday, I MIGHT have time
> to implement something, however, this is not a promise, it is a
> desire.
>
> I have asked ONE person to take a discussion private and I believe he
> will, but, I'm now publicly saying that I want this nonsense stopped,
> ALL OF IT or things will change, and soon.
>
> You people (and I'm only referring to specific people who are in the
> vast minority) could potentially be responsible for the removal of
> BOTH cavers and techdiver.  Well, Cavers will NOT go away, but, I will
> crack the wip and remove those that I deem necessary to insure the
> peace without removing the sources of information.  If JR brings down
> techdiver then there's a very good chance the cavers archive will
> vanish too then you won't even be able to read it via the web...
>
> -Carl-

I joined the techdiver and cavers list to discuss things relevent to
these groups. It seems that 99% of the bandwidth is devoted to BS. One
of the first messages I read was describing the tech list in one word
"EGO" and I see that it was right on. I agree with Carl that enough is
enough and I'm on the verge of unsubscribing to both groups, no big loss
you say, well I bet I'm not the only one fed up with the bickering, 
whining, childish attempts to prove their manhood and stroke their 
bigger than life egos.

I hate to see such potentially beneficial groups crumble right before
our eyes, but I'm afraid the selfishness of a few will let that happen. 
Let's hope not.

Robert

-- 
Robert Crumley
E-Mail  rcrumley@pe*.td*.co*
"We'll cross that bridge when we come to it." Ted Kennedy
Error opening CLINTON.LIE: Cannot recover COUNTRY.SYS

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