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Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 10:45:17 -0500
To: "Richard Wackerbarth" <rkw@da*.ne*>
From: dlv@ga*.ne* (Dan Volker)
Subject: Re: Enough of this PGP nonsense
Cc: techdiver@terra.net, "George M. Irvine III" <gmiiii@in*.co*>
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>I also am unwilling to accept your group as the authority as to what
>constitutes a "real" dive. I admit that I do not dive tri-mix and go to the
>depths for which it is required.  Other than that, you know little about my
>diving experience.
>
>> I suggest  you 
>> save the computer geek talk for work or the gay bar, which would be the   
>> same place for some of you.
>
>Again, this comment indicates that you are basically an insecure individual.
>
>Richard Wackerbarth
>rkw@da*.ne*

Richard,

Personally I could care less about all this message faking stuff. As Sankey 
said, this is a diving list.  Contributions to technical diving  on this 
list, lays the foundation of  respect and  the heirarchy which its members 
interact within....If a person jumps on and their sole claim to fame here is 
their knowledge of encryption, I'd suggest they consider themselves 
relegated to the bottom of our gene pool. I've seen you like to slam George, 
and have completely forgotten the fact that he and WKPP have practically 
re-written cave diving, and their work with mixed gasses and gear 
configuration is already making tech divers safer ALL OVER THE WORLD. 

In terms of reletive contributions to this list, George is up here......
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and you are several pages below, at the very bottom (but I don't want to 
waste the pages on you so a few lines will have to do). 

Just what contributions do you feel you are competent to make??? Personal 
preferences? Butt mounting???  How to do a Giant Stride?? How to train for 
diving by watching TV and eating doughnuts???
Guys like Rob Wolov are brand new to diving, but the whole list listens to 
what he has to say, because he brings a great wealth of medical knowledge 
and physiology to this list---and this includes the most well known speakers 
of the list---guys like George or Rich Pyle or Carl and many others----they 
listen to what is valuable, and compliment the those who deserve it.

You don't do Tri-mix or deep dives by your own admission.  If you don't know 
the differences between the preparedness, training, and reflex levels 
associated with someone doing hundreds of 300 foot deep dives, versus a 
PADI/NAUI  instructor on a 45 foot deep novice reef,  then there is very 
little hope that your comments will ever be well recieved on this list.

Right now Richard, I don't think you are due for any compliments. Instead of 
slamming George  or WKPP, why not figure out what you can contribute to the 
good of the list, or just stay off the conversations entirely. I'd much 
rather read about why George or Sankey or Gavin wants to use a new piece of 
equipment, or about a new proceedure they have just started, than some 
little whining diatribe about who faked who's message. 
Dan
Dan Volker
SOUTH FLORIDA DIVE JOURNAL
"The Internet magazine for Underwater Photography and mpeg Video"
http://www.florida.net/scuba/dive
407-683-3592

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