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On Tue, 16 Jan 1996 gmcgee1@fo*.co* wrote:
> Tech. Divers
>
> (BTW: This is the last posting from me on this tread)
>
> I'm getting the impression that most of you have not been
> in a underwater emergency yourselves. The only information
> you are trying to pass to me is what someone else told you,
> or your instructor told you. It's also very funny that all
> of you seem to have read a copy of the "Play by Play action
> Book of the PANIC DIVER" and know 100% percently how a panic
> diver is going to act. Some of you may even have a autographed
> copy of the book from some drowned diver. Get Real! The very first
> time you guys are in a real PANIC (I mean PANIC) life saving
> situation you'll all change your mine. The book gets tossed
> out the window.
>
> I think most of you need to get some first hand experience
> dealing with a real out of control panic divers.
>
> 1. Try dealing with one where you pass the regulator from
> your mouth.
>
> 2. Then, try dealing with one where you keep the regulator in
> your mouth.
>
> I'm talking about a real live out of control diver who comes to get air
> from you underwater in the dark, who hits you like a football player
> trying to get a football from you. Plus this diver really believes he
> is going to die!
>
> Then come back tell me what you think.
>
> Please remember my first post on this subject. I've done this, on
> several occasions, both ways. Plus I've never lost a diver who I have set
> out to rescue.
>
> NOTE:
> The biggest problem I have noticed is the out of air diver (OAD), seems to
> believe the regulator he has gotton doesn't work. After the rescue and
talking
> to the diver. I ask why he/she continued to act so wildly after he/she got
the
> backup regulator (from my mouth or chest area). In every case the diver,
> replied, "I felt like I could not get any air and I just wanted to get out of
> there."
> This is usually because the OAD personal regulator may have breathe
> differently. The reality is the OAD may simply be hyperventalating.
> You will need to get him/her to calm down to truely get control of the
> situation.
>
> Believe me guys I could give you a lot of "What if's" for taking a regulator
> out of your mouth underwater.
>
> Again, the real and only question: Is it safer to take a good working
regulator
> out of your mouth or keep it in your mouth while underwater? >
> For you folks who say: YES.
> Then why do you even put a regulator your mouth at all, since it's so unsafe.
>
STROKALERT...I detect a lack of logic here. Even if breathing the short
hose were safer...This does not mean (and noone has said it does) that
having a regulator in your mouth is unsafe.
> For you folks who say: NO.
> Now you thinking.
>
>
> Gary McGee
> Detroit, MI USA
> Great Lakes Wrecker
>
> PS.
> TO JimG.
>
> In one of your E-Mail notes you said I'm gambling with my life. That I
> agree. I realize I'm gambling with my life everytime I go diving. It's
> one of those "RISK" things.
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Bob Favorite RVT
UC Davis VMTH UC Davis SCUBA The Octopus' Garden
VMD 490 Instructor safety diver safety diver
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