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Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 11:42:30 -0500
To: techdiver@terra.net
From: s_lindblom@co*.co* (Steven Lindblom)
Subject: Re: How to use a O2 rebreather?

>
>> My understanding is that emptying the breathing bag 2 or 3 times by exhaling
>> through the nose should work,
>
>  My understanding is that purging n times wastes n bagfuls and n lungfuls of
>oxygen and grossly shortens the dive. I see no need for more than: empty bag
>and your lungs as far as you can, then start breathing from the set, then
>purge once.


Am I the only one this makes nervous? We've got someone who apparently has
a rebreather they have neither directions or training for, and two levels
of "I gather" type notions to guide him in how to use it. Or is this just a
troll? Anyhow, I'll bite....

My copy of BASIC SCUBA DIVING, circa 1964 (and surely one of the last
introductory SCUBA texts to give full directions for rebreather use!)
recommends purging three or four cycles. An older US Navy dive manual says
to do it until the bag is completely flat, then every hour and before
beginning an ascent.
This is for a plain jane manually operated straight 02 rig. There are a lot
of newer ones offering one degree or another of automation, mixture
control, or gas mix options, each of which requires specialized techniques
and training.

Exhaling during the purge cycles, "I gather" is not just a matter of
exhaling through the nose, since any exhaled gasses that make it back into
the bag defeat the process - it's necessary to have either a three way
valve that allows blocking the flow back to the bag, or else to crimp the
hose with your fingers to block it off.

Has anyone else had any experience using a rebreather just for decom use?
It doesn't seem like an optimum use at all, because of the chances of water
getting into the bag while the outfit is hanging (doubly a problem with any
rebreather not made specifically for diving and using absorbents like
caustics and hyperoxides which are intolerant of water), and the difficulty
of effectively doing an effective initial purge underwater. It would also
probably be a good idea to purge more often, in decom use, since one would
be outgassing significant amounts of nitrogen.

Experienced, trained rebreather divers still manage to die using
rebreathers, and the record is much worse for rebreathers not specifically
designed for diving (like the mine gas masks common in the USA after WW2,
or the surplus Soviet ones turning up on the surplus market now). Anyone
considering using one should be very sure of the accuracy of their
information and their understanding of the subtleties involved.
>--


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